The Ezra Klein Show

Is big tech addictive? Nir Eyal and I debate.

1:19:13 | Aug 1st, 2019

3 recommendations

“How do successful companies create products people can’t put down?”That’s the opening line of the description for Nir Eyal’s bestselling 2014 book Hooked: How to Build Habit-Forming Products. Hooked ...Show More


mo-to recommended:Oct 12th

A difficult conversation on the ethics of creating engaging technological products versus Big Tech’s “manipulation” of human psychology. 🧠 Is distraction a symptom of a dysfunctional work culture? What is the deeper reason behind being hooked on technology? Both sides make a good case, going into ...Show More

I thought this episode was:

💬 A great conversation
💯 A must listen
🤔 Thought-provoking

matresstester recommended:Oct 3rd, 2019

Fans of Hooked: Building Habit Forming Products will enjoy this interview, where the author Nir Eyal was challenged throughout. Argument makes a better podcast.

matresstesterOct 3rd, 2019

TL:DR; distraction is caused by pain avoidance. Always know what you are being distracted FROM.

mm recommended:Sep 3rd, 2019

This interview was something else. Never heard Ezra Klein start an interview saying he was disappointed in a guest’s arguments and lack of framework of the world for the topic at hand. Yikes...

matresstesterOct 3rd, 2019

Thanks for the Echo! Loved the episode

matresstesterOct 4th, 2019

I actually went and bought the book. But now it's reminding me more and more of Stephen Covey's 7 Habits book. I guess good habits are timeless.