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Fits + Starts

Daniel Coulbourne & John Drexler

An ongoing conversation about work, internet culture, and what it means to be a mindful 20-something at the beginning of your career.
30: Meritocracy ++

53:35 | Jul 25th, 2018

We like Notion (sort of), Daniel hates Basecamp, and John is prototyping board games. Then Daniel lays out his unified field theory of software engineering and pounds the table for collective bargaining.
29: Ominous death clock

37:35 | Feb 14th, 2018

In our season finale, we talk about time and attention. Daniel takes John to task about whether or not time exists. And then we talk about ego. We'll be back with Season 4 soon!
28: Heroic feats of workaholism (with Stephen Hackett)

45:48 | Jan 24th, 2018

Relay.fm co-founder Stephen Hackett stops in to talk about the perils of finding personal identity in your work, whether or not it's important to "love" what you do, and the weird experience of having an emotional relationship with a corporation.
27: Discipline December pt. 2 (with Caleb Porzio)

49:30 | Jan 3rd, 2018

This week we recap Discipline December. We talk discipline as a tool, the downside of letting fear motivate your work, and using experiments to diagnose your problems. Then John loses his mind over how much he loves “Holy Hour”.
26: Ego depletion

31:52 | Dec 20th, 2017

We return to form with this old school episode with no guest. John is having a hard time getting things done, and Daniel has ideas for how to help. We discuss working from home, making good check lists, slowing your roll, and taking notes.
25: Discipline December (with Caleb Porzio)

45:07 | Dec 6th, 2017

Daniel is going to be disciplined for (almost) a whole month! This is a very meta episode: protestant work ethic, work habits, budgeting, food, exercise, checklists, tidying up, and more! Follow along with our progress in the link in the show notes. ...Show More
24: Many a hustle (with Michael Johnson)

43:02 | Nov 22nd, 2017

Long time friend Michael Johnson calls in for our ONE YEAR ANNIVERSARY. We talk vlogging, managing multiple side hustles, unifying your life, finding identity, and living life without a calendar. Special Guest: Michael Johnson. Links: Patreon (Li...Show More
23: Total depravity (with Nancy French)

40:31 | Nov 8th, 2017

4-time NYT Best Selling Author Nancy French shares her thoughts on being a Conservative writer in the era of Trump. Nancy recently left the Republican party and faced harassment from the Alt-Right. We also get into the relationship between pop cultur...Show More
22: I call it poetry, you call it content (with Aaron Belz)

49:42 | Oct 25th, 2017

John's cousin Aaron Belz drops by to talk about how businesses use language, the difference between students and young employees, how social media can shape the way people make creative stuff online, baseball, and more! Aaron is a poet and essayist ...Show More
21: Thinking in public (with Mike Rugnetta)

50:28 | Oct 11th, 2017

Mike Rugnetta drops some knowledge about how to improve internet discourse, maintaining a productive comment section, focusing on the right stuff, why people join internet communities, and what it means for something to "end" on the internet. Lastly,...Show More
20: Talking about the show on the show

34:28 | Aug 2nd, 2017

We're about to take a short break! This episode is about where the show has been and where it is going. John sings the praises of incrementalism. Our list of dream guests is getting long. Links: Fits + Starts Listener Survey Best way for artists a...Show More
19: Idealogical Purity Ideas (with Brianna Wu)

55:57 | Jul 19th, 2017

Brianna is running for Congress! She stops by to share her insights about the work of running a campaign, seeking to support people you don't agree with, and why Millennials need to take direct action instead of making symbolic political gestures. We...Show More
18: Eventually it sucks less (with Merlin Mann)

59:48 | Jul 5th, 2017

Merlin stops by to talk about finding a job that fits you, prototyping your future, and manufacturing care. Then we have a lot of rapid fire questions for him. Special Guest: Merlin Mann. Links: Independent Writer, Speaker, and Broadcaster - Merl...Show More
17: Make the Internet Better (with Anil Dash)

59:06 | Jun 21st, 2017

Anil Dash (Founder / Writer / Speaker / Blogger / Preeminent force on the Internet) argues for a new definition of "open" on the web. We ask for advice on how to be more inclusive as a non-manager. Daniel has some big ideas about infrastructure. Hit...Show More
16: Six-month-ago You (with Adam Wathan)

31:00 | Jun 7th, 2017

Programmer, author, and teacher Adam Wathan stops by to talk about working in public, asking stupid questions, charting a weird career path, and dropping knowledge on your peers. Hit us up on Twitter: Fits and Starts: @fits_and_starts Daniel: @dcou...Show More
15: Bottle Episode

36:26 | May 24th, 2017

We just saw each other in Chicago! John is a friend of Tighten.co. The show is changing. John is afraid that his life is too comfortable. Daniel thinks it's all about leaning into your fear. We think that Donald Trump and Smash Mouth are indications ...Show More
14: Obvious Questions Without Obvious Answers (with Estelle Caswell)

32:31 | May 10th, 2017

Along with our guest Estelle Caswell, we discuss Twitter, YouTube comments, and how to handle negative feedback (especially in public). Then we talk about that magical moment when your work becomes less scary to you. Finally, we talk about Kanye West...Show More
13: Motivating an Animal (with Matt Stauffer)

57:27 | Apr 26th, 2017

Matt enumerates the differences between venture-backed and bootstrapped businesses. We discuss the difference between “useful” and “good” traits. Matt has some advice on how to talk about your strengths without sounding like a jerk, and then John mee...Show More
12: Clearing Up Mindspace (with Jake Thomsen)

44:39 | Apr 12th, 2017

Guest host Jake Thomsen explains the real meaning of great operations / processes. John tries (and fails) to apply economic ideas to his personal life. Daniel blows everyone's mind with some mysticism. And then Jake settles a long-standing debate abo...Show More
11: Everybody's My Boss (with Kelly Walker)

40:20 | Mar 29th, 2017

We discuss the very gross, but very real idea of personal brands. Kelly and Daniel talk about the exhausting plight of the freelancer. We also discuss turning your passion into your career, and mindfulness practices. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and ...Show More
10: Strapped to the Mast (with Zay Smallman)

52:17 | Mar 15th, 2017

Along with our inaugural guest host Zay Smallman, we discuss who should and shouldn't take venture capital money, misadventures in Human Resources, and John takes Zay to task on strategy in the film industry. Zay is a co-founder at Fancy Rhino and M...Show More
9: Expectations You're Not Entitled To

41:38 | Feb 23rd, 2017

We discus where the show is and where it's headed. John wonders about when the right time is to change careers. Daniel thinks it's important to check your entitlement. Then Daniel has some personal finance tips, and John buys a SodaStream! Hit us up...Show More
8: Maslow's Hierarchy of Goals

41:08 | Feb 8th, 2017

We talk about growing out of being a slug-like process person. John claims erroneously to be a Californian. What does it take to claim that you've been to a state? John was late to recording this episode because he has disabled all notifications on h...Show More
7: Fix Your Pet Bug

51:28 | Jan 26th, 2017

We talk about personality tests, and how they can guide your career path. Daniel is taken in by 16personalities.com. John wonders how to solve for his many shortcomings, and wonders if Daniel will be promoted to the level of his own incompetency. AND...Show More
6: Too Proud to Touch the Monolith

42:09 | Jan 11th, 2017

Daniel lays siege to Nevada. John has some existential dread about Apple. We discuss how to know when a project is working, and how to measure success. John has a great scam for Black Friday. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and Starts - @fits_and_starts...Show More
5: Closing the Gap

41:21 | Dec 28th, 2016

The Greyhound bus system is a loosely held anarchy. Travel is insanity. It's hard to learn anything more from geniuses than how to hide your work. John moves back to the USA. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and Starts - @fits_and_starts Daniel - @dcoulb...Show More
4: Internet Civics

40:59 | Dec 14th, 2016

We talk about working remotely, being a good citizen on the internet, and John's fridge. We appeal to your kind sensibilities to subscribe. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and Starts - @fits_and_starts Daniel - @dcoulbourne John - @johnrudolphdrex Link...Show More
3: Five Jobs and a Bunch of Dogwhistles

49:15 | Dec 3rd, 2016

We talk about the theoretical idea of a job and knowing what a job is like, our process of making the show. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and Starts - @fits_and_starts Daniel - @dcoulbourne John - @johnrudolphdrex Links: Reserve Ratio Federal Reser...Show More
2: Ducks in a Row

37:06 | Nov 26th, 2016

We discuss getting your ducks in a row, the connection between mental hygiene and corporate culture, and the phenomenology of dogs. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and Starts - @fits_and_starts Daniel - @dcoulbourne John - @johnrudolphdrex Links: hav...Show More
1: Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaires

33:55 | Nov 22nd, 2016

We discuss the phenomenon of visionary bro culture. Daniel wonders about why helpful people are helpful. We get an unexpected update from a college friend. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and Starts - @fits_and_starts Daniel - @dcoulbourne John - @johnr...Show More
0: Episode Zero

30:36 | Nov 22nd, 2016

We figure out what the show is about. Daniel takes John to task on the Protestant Work Ethic. We reminisce about a DIY shelf, and we have two very different takes on how it was built. Hit us up on Twitter! Fits and Starts - @fits_and_starts Daniel ...Show More