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If Then: is a show about technology, society, and power. Each week, Slate‘s April Glaser and Will Oremus take you on a lively tour of the tech news that actually matters, from fake news in your Facebook feed to the algorithms that want your job to th...Show More

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Media Layoffs Are Trending

36:20 | Jan 30th

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss a rather terrifying security flaw from Apple, a company that prides itself on keeping information well-protected. A bug was found in the video chat app Facetime that let snoops listen in on ...Show More

Naomi Klein on Disaster Capitalism in Puerto Rico.

46:04 | Jun 6th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about how Microsoft is buying GitHub, Google is ending its Pentagon contract, and all the news from Apple’s developer conference on Monday—including the company’s effort to engineer a less add...Show More

Livestreaming A Massacre

34:57 | Mar 20th

On today’s show, April Glaser and Will Oremus first talk to two researchers who’ve uncovered new information about the way the U.S. government trains its facial recognition software. According to their findings, the government uses photos of immigran...Show More

Your Social Media Photos Are Helping to Build the Surveillance State

28:38 | Mar 13th

On today’s show, April Glaser kicks things off by talking about Facebook’s long-overdue crackdown on anti-vaccination groups. The social media platform announced it will stop allowing advertisements that peddle misinformation about vaccines, and they...Show More

How To Trust A VPN

31:08 | Mar 6th

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus take a look at an increasingly popular online privacy tool--that has some serious trust issues of its own. We’re  talking about VPNs, or virtual private networks, and why the average user might have...Show More

Empathy at Scale

33:23 | Feb 27th

On today’s show, host April Glaser looks at the continuing battle between Tesla CEO Elon Musk and the Securities and Exchange Commision. Earlier this week, the SEC asked a judge to hold Musk in contempt for tweets he’s made about Tesla’s performance....Show More

Can Palantir Be Used For Good?

32:15 | Feb 20th

On today’s show, host Will Oremus looks at the fallout from Amazon’s announcement last week that they’re abandoning plans for a new headquarters in New York City. Some celebrated it as a victory; others mourned a missed opportunity; still others were...Show More

Jeff Bezos’s Privacy Complexifier

30:59 | Feb 13th

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about the implications from last week’s bizarre, but also serious, showdown between Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos and American Media INC, the owner of the Trump-friendly National Enquirer. Bezos claime...Show More

The Court-Records Paywall Scam

44:17 | Feb 6th

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus check in on net neutrality. Last Friday a DC court of appeals heard oral arguments for the biggest court challenge to the repeal of the open internet rules that happened last year––with all the chal...Show More

Juul Heist

41:43 | Jan 23rd

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss news news that the french government has fined Google close to $57 million for violating the new European privacy laws that went into effect in 2018. This comes as news that the Federal Trad...Show More

Social Media's Weird Future

50:25 | Jan 16th

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss news that PG&E, California’s main power provider, plans to file for bankruptcy due to the billions in liability it faces stemming from the deadly wildfires last year. Allegations have been m...Show More

At CES: Tech After Smartphones

42:07 | Jan 9th

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss startling new revelations about some of the major phone carriers. The story broke this week in Motherboard titled “I Gave a Bounty Hunter $300. Then He Located Our Phone.” It details how T-M...Show More

Best of 2018

48:04 | Jan 2nd

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus introduce some of their favorite interviews from 2018. We have highlights from our conversations with journalist Taylor Lorenz about teen YouTube stars, former head of Facebook’s Newsfeed Adam Mosse...Show More

Aftermath of a Data Breach

34:29 | Dec 26th, 2018

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus will talk reader mail! The hosts  take a look at some of your questions and comments from the year, in particular about how your relationship to technology and social media has changed in a year tha...Show More

The Information World War

34:15 | Dec 19th, 2018

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus will talk about how Taylor Swift used face recognition to surveil the crowd at a recent concert, and whether that’s smart, scary, or both. Then they’ll welcome Renée DiResta, an expert on cybersecur...Show More

Warehouse Workers Bring Amazon To The Table

48:48 | Dec 12th, 2018

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss the latest round of “Tech CEO Goes to Washington.” On Tuesday morning, that CEO was Google’s Sundar Pichai, who appeared before the House Judiciary Committee and was asked about data privacy...Show More

The Civil Rights Group Targeted By Facebook

44:24 | Dec 5th, 2018

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss the news that Tumblr will soon be banning all adult content on its site -- this in response to some instances of child pornography that got it suspended from Apple’s App Store. Hundreds of t...Show More

Tomorrow's Children, Edited.

40:43 | Nov 28th, 2018

On today’s show, hosts April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss the ongoing fallout at Facebook over the company’s decision to hire a conservative PR firm to surface opposition research in order to attack Facebook’s nonprofit critics by highlighting thei...Show More

Facebook's Former Security Chief on What Went Wrong

47:46 | Nov 21st, 2018

On today’s show, host Will Oremus will discuss the fallout from last week’s New York Times expose about Facebook with the company’s former Security Chief Alex Stamos. The Times story was headlined “Delay, Deny and Deflect: How Facebook’s Leaders Lean...Show More

Amazon's Prime Real Estate

44:44 | Nov 14th, 2018

On today’s show, host Will Oremus will talk about the employee uprising at Google, and the changes that it and other tech companies have made to their sexual harassment policies in response. Joining him is Caroline O’Donovan, senior technology report...Show More

The Meme Midterms

1:00:08 | Nov 5th, 2018

Will Oremus and April Glaser are bringing you a special episode of If Then, all about the midterm elections and the role of Silicon Valley and online media in our beloved democratic process. We’re going to start with a roundtable with two extra tech ...Show More

The Internet of Hate

46:28 | Oct 31st, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser look further into the presidential election in Brazil and how tech has played a role. On Sunday, the far right candidate Jair Bolsanaro was elected President, and many have attributed his victory t...Show More

Who Owns Your DNA Data?

36:01 | Oct 24th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser discuss Elon Musk’s other, other project with their Slate colleague Henry Grabar. Not space travel, not electric cars, but the Boring Company, which is working on a tunneling project in Los Angeles...Show More

How Senator Mark Warner Wants to Crack Down on Tech

41:00 | Oct 17th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser discuss the continuing saga that is Facebook’s effort to fix itself--ideally, without breaking everything else. On Friday, the company finally released more information about the huge hack that it ...Show More

Is Privacy A Right?

44:54 | Oct 10th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser discuss the latest data spill in Silicon Valley: It’s Google this time. And it’s time to talk gadgets again. This week Facebook announced its second foray into the hardware space with the Portal an...Show More

Fact And Fiction on Wikipedia

56:22 | Oct 3rd, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about the announcement that Amazon would raise the minimum wage for its US workers to 15 dollars an hour. While Jeff Bezos may be receiving praise for the move this week, another enigmatic tec...Show More

Reshuffling the Podcasting Deck

42:30 | Sep 26th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about the recent announcement that Instagram’s founders Kevin Systrom and Mike Krieger, would be leaving the company - at least in part due to clashes with Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg over th...Show More

Tech Barons Are the New Media Barons

46:42 | Sep 19th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about a literal moonshot. SpaceX CEO Elon Musk has announced the first private customer who is signed up for a trip around earth’s moon, possibly as early as 2023—and he’ll be bringing some su...Show More

If Then Presents: The Secret History of The Future

44:04 | Sep 16th, 2018

Technology continues to change the way we live and work. Which is why The Secret History of The Future—the new technology show from Slate and The Economists—is digging through the past to find lessons for our future. Subscribe to Secret History of th...Show More

Special Report: Apple’s New (Old) Gizmos

24:16 | Sep 13th, 2018

We have a special bonus If Then! On Wednesday afternoon Apple held its big annual event full of new and expensive gadgets. We wanted to help you make sense of what happened, and what it means. Host Will Oremus is joined by journalist and Slate contri...Show More

Google’s Real Biases

46:46 | Sep 12th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser discuss California’s landmark decision to eliminate cash bail for defendants in criminal cases--and the controversial algorithmic “risk assessment” system that will partially replace it. They also ...Show More

How The Future Of Music Streaming Will Sound

43:22 | Sep 5th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser are joined once again by their Slate colleague Mark Joseph Stern to make sense of a what a Kavanaugh-court might mean for the internet going forward.They are also joined by music and technology wri...Show More

Twitter Without the Nazis

40:34 | Aug 29th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser discuss reports that big tech companies are lobbying in favor of a national privacy law. They’ll talk about what their motivations are. (Hint: It’s not just altruism or civic duty.)The hosts are al...Show More

Google’s Secret Censorship Project

48:53 | Aug 22nd, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about a new Russian hacking report--this time, targeting conservatives. And it’s been a busy news week (as always) for Facebook, with reports on massive changes to its ad targeting and a heret...Show More

Making Sense of Elon Musk

46:21 | Aug 15th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about how Google has been tracking and storing your location—even after you’ve asked it not to. Then they review some of the disturbing security news out of DEF CON, the annual hacker conferen...Show More

Embracing Deplorable Status

45:57 | Aug 8th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser discuss why a bunch of the big tech platforms—Facebook, YouTube, Apple—are suddenly banning the far-right conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his media empire Infowars. They also talk about the late...Show More

Flying Cars Are Only A Few Years Away

41:09 | Aug 1st, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk talk about a new study that suggests the internet might not have played the crucial role in Trump’s election victory that we tend to assume. And then: flying cars! And self-driving cars. The h...Show More

This Is How Fake News Spreads

42:14 | Jul 25th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about what’s happening new with the proposed $3.9 billion dollar merger between Sinclair, the largest television station owner in the country and also happens to have an overt tilt in favor of...Show More

How a Top Twitter Exec Tackles Trolls

48:34 | Jul 18th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus is joined by guest co-host Maya Kosoff from Vanity Fair. They discuss the latest Congressional dog and pony show involving the big social media platforms. They’ll get into a controversy over whether Facebook should...Show More

The Surveillance State's Eyes at the U.S. Border

32:12 | Jul 11th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk to Dr. Guadalupe Correa-Cabrera, a professor of political science and policy at George Mason University and an expert on immigration and security at the U.S.-Mexico border. They discuss how te...Show More

The Supreme Court in the Cyber Age

39:30 | Jul 4th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about the Facebook privacy scandal that won’t go away. They’ll also touch on some new data from our employer, Slate, that illustrates how Facebook is pulling back from the news business. Then,...Show More

Tech Workers Fight Back

42:04 | Jun 27th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about the midterm elections coming up in November -- and whether Silicon Valley companies are ready for the deluge of disinformation -- whether from Russia, Macedonia, or right here in the U.S...Show More

Should Tech Companies Take a Stand Against Family Separation?

29:33 | Jun 20th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser discuss the horrifying story that’s on everyone’s minds this week: the Trump Administration’s policy of separating immigrant families crossing the US Mexico border. They focus on how tech’s big pla...Show More

The Failed Promise of the Gig Economy

38:09 | Jun 13th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus is joined by guest co-host Maya Kosoff from Vanity Fair. They discuss the electric scooters that are suddenly wreaking havoc on city streets—and why Silicon Valley venture capitalists are swooning over them. They a...Show More

Bloody Money and Blind Investors

41:35 | May 30th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about GDPR, Europe’s sweeping new online privacy legislation that took effect last Friday. They explain why it triggered an avalanche of emails to your inbox, and what it means for the tech in...Show More

Google’s Chokehold on the Web

41:06 | May 23rd, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about about a privacy invasion that’s arguably scarier than Cambridge Analytica, and why it’s not getting nearly the same amount of attention. It involves your cellphone, and its ability to tr...Show More

Welcome to the Swamp

52:58 | May 16th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about about an unexpected move by President Trump that could save the Chinese electronics maker ZTE.  Also in the news is Project Maven, a Pentagon project to build AI for drones, which Google...Show More

Baby, You Can Self-Drive My Car

41:45 | May 9th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about the hedge fund that’s gutting the newsrooms of local newspapers across the country—and racking up huge profits. They also discuss the futuristic news out of Google’s annual developer con...Show More

Why an E-Waste Recycler Is Going to Prison

47:03 | May 2nd, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Will Oremus and April Glaser talk about Facebook’s big privacy changes and its foray into online dating, as Glaser reports from the company’s annual developer conference in San Jose. Oremus takes a listener’s question about th...Show More

The Cost of Online Immunity

52:05 | Apr 25th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about a somewhat surprising speech from the antitrust chief of Trump’s DOJ. They bring you up to date on a big new data privacy bill in Congress, and Mike Nuñez, a journalist for Masha...Show More

What If Facebook Used Data For Black Lives?

44:37 | Apr 18th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about trouble at Tesla: the company has suspended production of the Model 3, the car that will make or break its business. The hosts also dig into the news about the real estate site Z...Show More

What Mark Zuckerberg Didn’t Share

32:06 | Apr 12th, 2018

Will Congress let Mark Zuckerberg get away with under-sharing? On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus break down the Facebook chief’s trip to Washington to testify before Congress on the Cambridge Analytica scandal. They review ...Show More

Congress Called. They Want Our Data Back.

30:11 | Apr 10th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus bring us an early-week show in anticipation of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg’s testimony to Congress Tuesday and Wednesday (which also means we will have a show recapping the hearings later ...Show More

Alexa, How Do You Really Work?

43:15 | Apr 4th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss the outrage at the largest television station owner in the country—Sinclair Broadcasting—after the media conglomerate forced its local news anchors read a script that echoes Trumpia...Show More

Facebook’s Deepwater Horizon

51:03 | Mar 28th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus dissect the latest fallout from the Facebook Cambridge Analytica scandal, wherein the profile data of over 50 million Facebook users was obtained and allegedly used by Trump’s online voter ...Show More

The Tech That Draws Your District

26:32 | Mar 21st, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus take a deep look into gerrymandering and the highly specialized mapping technology that has allowed for political parties - especially the GOP since 2010 - to drastically change the way pol...Show More

What Keeps Facebook Up at Night

42:15 | Mar 14th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss Elon Musk’s plan to… colonize Mars? They explain how sanctuary cities may unwittingly be sharing data with ICE through police surveillance tech. And Facebook VP Adam Mosseri, head o...Show More

Nietzsche with a 3D Printer

48:38 | Mar 7th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus try to make sense of Twitter CEO Jack Dorsey’s rare honest assessment of his company’s shortfalls, and what new state regulations mean for self-driving cars and trucks. Cody Wilson, the man...Show More

“You Have to Be Heard”

46:44 | Feb 28th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus take a look at Vero, the new social network that has people fleeing Instagram and Facebook, how conspiracy theories after the Parkland massacre have bubbled to the top of YouTube’s search r...Show More

How Russian Trolls Went Local

38:14 | Feb 21st, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus dig into special prosecutor Robert Mueller’s recent indictment of 13 Russian nationals and 3 Russian companies for their role in tampering with the 2016 election. Jonathan Albright from the...Show More

“Like” Is Too Simple an Emotion

45:28 | Feb 14th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus lamentthe anticlimactic end to Waymo and Uber’s court drama, explain why teens are pissed at Snapchat, and examine John Perry Barlow’s contributions to the internet we know today. The hosts...Show More

FISA and Fury

42:38 | Feb 7th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about a new anti-tech lobbying group formed by ex-employees of Facebook and Google, the big trial that’s happening this week in San Francisco that involves Waymo accusing Uber of steal...Show More

Through The Revolving Door Between Facebook and Democrats

37:33 | Jan 31st, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about about a clever effort to restore net neutrality in Montana and New York. They also discuss Facebook’s latest news feed tweaks: this time it’s trying to resuscitate the local news...Show More

Dudebros Everyday

33:41 | Jan 24th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about Facebook’s fraught plan to rate the media and the cool yet creepy Amazon store that automatically bills you for your purchases. The hosts are joined by Daily Beast technology and...Show More

The Problem With Facebook Is Facebook

36:15 | Jan 17th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about the Senate’s stand on net neutrality and why Congress is set to renew a major piece of internet government mass surveillance legislation. The hosts are joined by Siva Vaidhyanath...Show More

Live from CES: Our Dumb "Smart" Future

34:16 | Jan 10th, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus are at CES, the huge trade show put on by the Consumer Technology Association in Las Vegas. They talk about all the weird, wonderful, and unnecessary gadgets and tech they seen so far the c...Show More

Science Fiction by ABBA

35:59 | Jan 3rd, 2018

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about a key detail in the new tax plan that could have a huge effect on gig workers in the tech sector—and maybe even robots. They also discuss Apple’s “batterygate” iPhone situation, ...Show More

What’s a Firefox?

40:58 | Dec 20th, 2017

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk with the executive director of Mozilla about how Firefox competes with Chrome and the biggest threats to the Open Web. They break down the fallout from the FCC’s 3-2 vote to kill net n...Show More

Beanie Babies for Geeks

32:01 | Dec 13th, 2017

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk a little about why everyone is freaking out about Bitcoin. And in the run up to Thursday’s critical net neutrality decision from the FCC, the hosts speak with Columbia law professor Ti...Show More

The Ellen Pao Effect

27:43 | Dec 6th, 2017

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser talks with Ellen Pao about sexism in Silicon Valley and why the tech industry hasn’t experienced the same fallout over accusations of sexual harassment and assault as the media and entertainment business. ...Show More

Antitrust Superstar

37:54 | Nov 29th, 2017

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss how bots messed up the net neutrality comment process and whether that gives advocates a last chance to preserve an open Internet. They also examine YouTube’s ongoing problems airin...Show More

Hack Friday

42:43 | Nov 22nd, 2017

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus talk about changes to net neutrality that were announced this week. They also talk a little about the digital media bubble and if it’s real, and April will also tell us about how living wit...Show More

Leaving Zen on the Table

48:36 | Nov 15th, 2017

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss some recent tech news, like the head-scratching revelation that WikiLeaks actually sent Donald Trump, Jr. Direct Messages on Twitter before and after the election, and a speech by S...Show More

You Can’t Hardcode Community

38:24 | Nov 8th, 2017

On this week’s If Then, Slate’s April Glaser and Will Oremus discuss the news that YouTube has been showing disturbing videos to kids and why this might be a symptom of a much deeper problem for Internet companies. They also talk about the recent rev...Show More

Trash Moths to the Trash Flame

44:34 | Nov 2nd, 2017

Hosts and Slate journalists April Glaser and Will Oremus are excited to bring you this new weekly podcast: If Then. The hosts start by talking through some of the most interesting tech news of the week (we promise it's not just tech geeks fawning ove...Show More

Coming Nov. 2, Slate's New Tech Show IF THEN

08:30 | Oct 27th, 2017

If Then: a podcast about technology, society, and power. Each week, Slate‘s April Glaser and Will Oremus take you on a lively tour of the tech news that actually matters, from fake news in your Facebook feed to the algorithms that want your job to th...Show More