The Librarian Is In

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Carla Hayden Wants You to Read a Book

39:02 | May 9th

Dr. Carla Hayden sits down with Gwen and Frank to discuss what it really means to lead the Library of Congress—which, by the way, isn't only FOR Congress. Plus: lessons she learned from storytime, how she organizes her home library, and the first tim...Show More
Reading Stonewall

36:33 | May 2nd

It's the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots, and Jason Baumann—NYPL curator and Grand Marquessa of All Things Stonewall—joins Gwen and Frank to discuss the Library's new anthology about the uprising and its role in the LGBTQ civil rights movemen...Show More
Call Your Librarian

49:00 | Apr 25th

Aminatou Sow, writer and co-host of the popular podcast "Call Your Girlfriend," talks with Gwen and Frank about poetry, the mental treadmill of the Internet, and her childhood best friend: the librarian.
Heartland, Homeland

42:55 | Apr 18th

What makes a place home? Frank follows a book rec from a listener and discovers a powerful memoir that makes him rethink the American dream. Gwen's book is a new fairytale retelling... sort of... that involves feudalism and magical gingerbread and......Show More
Are you – Nobody – too?

57:15 | Apr 11th

Our Poetry Bonanza has arrived! In this episode --titled to pay homage to Frank's favorite Emily Dickinson stanza-- he and Gwen get to read and hear poetry recommendations from their listeners.
Breaking the Mold

47:25 | Apr 4th

Gwen and Frank meet a handful of characters who aren't bothered by what other people think. Plus: the pros and cons of reading reviews, the extra voice in translations, and the no-person's-land between picture books and middle-grade fiction.
Reading (or Not) as a New Parent

41:29 | Mar 28th

How on earth can you read when you have a newborn? Stephanie Anderson—a new mom and a professional book selector for NYPL and the Brooklyn Public Library—comes to talk about the shifting habits of a readers with a new baby. Plus: Frank channels Super...Show More
The Gods Are Alright. But the Humans...

45:06 | Mar 21st

Greek mythology and contemporary fiction join forces this week! Gwen and Frank read two books that make readers ask, what would you do—or, what should you do?
Dance Your Books Off

30:21 | Mar 14th

Okay, what's the deal with librarians and musical theater? This week's guest, newly minted children's librarian Kevin Kelley, traces his origin story back to the stage. He also discusses kids' books about the queer experience and offers up a brand-ne...Show More
Bonus Episode - Frankenstein: Our Dark Mirror

53:49 | Mar 12th

Over 200 years ago, a teenage girl started a literary legacy that continues to haunt us today. Why do we still keep telling this story and how does it reflect our darkest fears? The New York Public Library's curators join monster theory scholars and ...Show More
Playing the Long Game with Lorde and Parker

38:19 | Mar 7th

Audre Lorde and Pat Parker were close friends who fought fiercely for social justice. In this episode, Frank and Gwen discuss a powerful book of letters between the two Black feminist poets.
Library, Meet Bookstore

34:21 | Feb 28th

Get rowdy with Roxanne Coady, indie bookstore owner and host of the Just the Right Book podcast. Roxanne finds common ground with Frank and Gwen, talking about places where people seek connection and community with books at their heart.
The Librarian Is ALL IN

42:24 | Feb 21st

Gwen's quest to learn more about Carol Channing took both her and Frank to a place where divas and dames truly reign- Broadway! Plus: Frank's book taps into the cultural obsession with visiting the past (repeatedly) to figure out the future, leading ...Show More
Curatorial Curiosities

59:00 | Feb 14th

Books have lives too! Frank and Gwen take a break from talking about the words on the page and get into the stories of items in NYPL's archives. In this specially curated tour, meet the Mary Poppins doll that made peace between author and illustrator...Show More
The Evolution of Joy

34:04 | Feb 7th

... or the joy of evolution? Frank's book traces the whole history of humankind and Gwen's is a short narrative about big changes. Plus: You can't talk about joy without talking about Christine Baranski. It's the law. Book Recommendations  Spea...Show More
Time(less) Travel

50:00 | Jan 31st

Book synergy abounds! Frank rediscovers Anne Frank's diary in a newly released graphic novel, Gwen becomes obsessed with a group of time-traveling historians, and everyone absorbs the small details of day-to-day lives during World War II.
Don't Worry, Be Mary Oliver

23:59 | Jan 24th

Frank and Gwen celebrate the life and work of Mary Oliver by reading a handful of her poems and doing something she might approve of—letting it all go and singing about dogs.
Mourning Heathcliff, Hedwig, and All the Literary Dogs

39:50 | Jan 17th

Have you ever truly grieved over the loss of someone in a book? Together with Eric Molinsky, host of the Imaginary Worlds podcast, Frank and Gwen dive into the psychology of readers' responses to character deaths. Don't worry, it's not as depressing ...Show More
New Fiction! New Fiction!

46:53 | Jan 10th

Gwen gets fired up about reading—you guessed it—new fiction this year, while Frank dips into the backlist of a new favorite author. Plus: New Year's resolutions, The Bachelor, and the best short stories of 2018.
Glory Edim Is Just Getting Started

49:05 | Dec 27th, 2018

Glory Edim, creator of the coolest book club on the Internet, joins Frank and Gwen to discuss book clubs and beyond! They talk about Well-Read Black Girl, empowered storytelling, the potentials and pitfalls of making book recommendations, Black write...Show More
Pitch Imperfect

36:35 | Dec 20th, 2018

Aca-scuse me? It's an impromptu celebration of our favorite feel-good a capella movie... and, oh yeah, some book recommendations, too. Frank goes for a soul-searching memoir about spirituality and religion, and Gwen suggests a fantastical flipbook fo...Show More
The Librarian Is LIVE

50:50 | Dec 13th, 2018

Welcome to our first-ever live show, recorded in Frank's very own Jefferson Market Library! Gwen and Frank talk to Eric Klinenberg, sociologist and author of a new book about libraries and social infrastructure. Plus: the audience offers an invaluabl...Show More
Anger Is a Gift

42:42 | Dec 6th, 2018

Aristotle famously (er, probably) said that anger is a gift, and Gwen's been given one this year: Rebecca Traister's book about the power of women's rage, "Good and Mad." Plus, Frank finds more presents in The New Yorker archives and NYPL announces i...Show More
Check Out This Sculpture

42:34 | Nov 29th, 2018

We're obsessed with libraries loaning unconventional items: seeds, toys, tools, clothes, games, museum passes... and sculptures. Local artist Wendy Richmond joins Gwen and Frank to talk about her work and her new installation, which encouraged patron...Show More
Keeping You Company in the Kitchen

45:01 | Nov 22nd, 2018

Whether you're cooking turkey for 20 or opting out of Thanksgiving entirely, books about food are always in season. Frank and Gwen talk about their favorite cookbooks and chef memoirs with NYPL's resident foodie, Jeanne Hodesh, and offer some family ...Show More
Pop-Culture Storytime (with Garfield)

41:33 | Nov 15th, 2018

What makes a good story time? Anthony Murisco, youth librarian extraordinaire, joins Frank and Gwen to talk all things kids and books. Plus: everyone's favorite lazy cartoon cat, a true stumper of a guessing game, and a flurry of pop-culture recommen...Show More

43:56 | Nov 8th, 2018

A library podcast about a book about libraries? Sign us up! Frank goes meta this week with an in-depth review of Susan Orlean's new page-turner, and and Gwen sees an author of children's classics in a new light.
The Librarian Is In... the Voting Booth!

50:25 | Nov 1st, 2018

It's almost Election Day. Do you know where your voting rights are? Christopher Famighetti, professor at Jefferson Market University, joins Frank and Gwen for an in-depth convo about voting — and what libraries have to do with it. Plus: a different t...Show More
Between Terror and Humor

42:07 | Oct 25th, 2018

It's almost Halloween, and it got so creepy we scared Gwen away. Frank braves the gore with Isaiah Pittman, horror aficionado and adult services librarian at NYPL. They talk scary books AND movies.
This Is Not the Foe You're Looking For

43:05 | Oct 18th, 2018

Gwen and Frank tackle a near-future dystopian novel about space colonization and a sobering work of journalism about the fallacy of modern philanthropy. Plus: why pho is objectively the best food ever.
Giving It Up for The Hate U Give

52:11 | Oct 11th, 2018

Kadiatou Tubman, Education Coordinator from the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture, joins Gwen and Frank for an intense analysis of Angie Thomas' classic: book vs. movie, casting choices, implications in the classroom, and much more.
Hot Topix Galore

52:43 | Oct 4th, 2018

Frank and Gwen are all about feminist texts this week. They go back in time with the classic short story, "The Yellow Wallpaper" — which is also NYPL's newest Insta Novel — and then hit the present (hard) with "Red Clocks." In between, there's a beau...Show More
Childhood Game-Changers

39:35 | Sep 27th, 2018

When we asked our book experts about books that changed their lives, we fell in love with their picks — and we wanted you to hear what they had to say, in their own voices. Plus: Frank and Gwen add their own childhood game-changers. Check out the ful...Show More
When Escape Leads You Back to Reality

28:30 | Sep 20th, 2018

Gwen and Frank discover two very different alternate worlds that speak to our present times. Their seemingly mismatched books offer stellar writing with clever takes on fantasy, bold dystopias and some serious cringe-worthy identity politics.
Thanks for Asking

38:09 | Sep 13th, 2018

Rosa Caballero-Li, manager of Ask NYPL, has all the answers! Rosa tells Frank and Gwen about the ins, outs, ups, and downs of the Library's multifaceted reference service, staffed by real-live human people. Plus: a story within a story presents some ...Show More
This Book Is No Joke

37:26 | Sep 6th, 2018

Which books do you wish you'd read in high school? Frank and Gwen offer up some ideas and then move on to city novels with urban themes and a picture book about a dog who tries to be a fork. Plus: what to do if you can't get enough of the Queer Eye g...Show More
Harry Potter Meets Jane Eyre

51:59 | Aug 30th, 2018

In celebration of the 20th anniversary of Harry Potter, Gwen and Frank fall hard for the wise and wonderful Vanessa Zoltan of the Harry Potter and the Sacred Text podcast! We talk Harry and Jane, try the spiritual practice of lectio divina, discuss t...Show More
Teens Take Charge

25:13 | Aug 23rd, 2018

Frank and Gwen get a visit from BridgeUP, NYPL's holistic academic support program for NYC teens. They talk to a teen scholar and program leader about this unique library initiative, what students want and need outside the classroom, and everything t...Show More
Guess What SHOULDN'T Replace Libraries?

42:03 | Aug 16th, 2018

Answer: anything! Frank and Gwen discuss why for-profit businesses cannot and should not take libraries' place in society. Plus, recommendations for two small books that contain very big worlds. Book Recommendations Convenience Store Woman by Sayaka...Show More
America Is Not The Heart

41:46 | Aug 9th, 2018

It's our third annual Summer Reading Challenge! This year, Frank and Gwen picked America Is Not the Heart, a debut novel by Elaine Castillo, about language and love and revolution and family and the meaning of home—it's about everything, and it's inc...Show More
May I Remove Your Preconceived Notions?

53:06 | Aug 2nd, 2018

Frank and Gwen break down romance novel stereotypes with fellow NYPL librarian Anne Rouyer. The genre often gets dismissed as fluff, but romance can subvert the traditional confines of gender, power, class, and more. (Gay Regency, anyone?)
What Makes a Good Beach Read?

35:37 | Jul 26th, 2018

We're finding our midsummer vacation reading groove. Gwen is spectacularly awed by a debut novel and Frank gets drawn into a thriller (with a dash of reader real estate jealousy). Our Book Recommendations  There There by Tommy Orange One Dar...Show More
Memory Lane

33:41 | Jul 19th, 2018

We're 100 episodes old! Frank and Gwen mark their centennial by responding to listener messages and revisiting some favorite themes. Plus: a list of our favorite episodes for new (or new-ish) listeners.
On Your Mark, Get Set...

09:49 | Jul 12th, 2018

It's time again for our Summer Reading Challenge! In this mini-episode, Frank and Gwen pick a book to dive into together and invite you to read along with them, so place those library holds for a copy of "America Is Not the Heart" by Elaine Castillo....Show More
You Can't Always Get What You Want

38:43 | Jul 5th, 2018

Gwen is so moved by one of the three poems she brings to the studio that she can't even read it (she tried!). And Frank is transported by a novel about a marriage in Nigeria he can't NOT talk about it.  Plus: the perils of social media and why Frank ...Show More
Help Me, Rhonda!

52:10 | Jun 28th, 2018

Gwen and Frank discover some surprising pieces of family history when Rhonda Evans, Electronic Resources Librarian at NYPL, arrives in the studio with a pile of documents and connects the dots from long-ago paper trails. Plus: Guessing game shenanig...Show More
Border Stories

33:38 | Jun 21st, 2018

Frank and Gwen share thoughts and reading recommendations about immigration, families, and children at the border. Plus: Frank asks what-if and Gwen ponders three recent books on motherhood.
Crossing Food Boundaries

47:11 | Jun 14th, 2018

Dr. Shayne Figueroa joins Frank and Gwen to discuss books and food nostalgia, Amish soul food (it's a thing!), and how NYC's free school lunch program is attempting to lift an age-old stigma. Plus: Frank's secret childhood eating habits and another g...Show More
May I Remove Your Cravat?

42:33 | Jun 7th, 2018

Frank and Gwen revisit the recent Booker Prize winner, Lincoln in the Bardo, as Frank gets serious about the afterlife and our understanding of history. Then Gwen turns the studio in a sauna with a gay Regency romance packed with period details and s...Show More
Call Me, Jason Reynolds

48:47 | May 31st, 2018

Gwen and Frank get a visit from Elisa Garcia, Supervising Librarian of Teen Services at the Bronx Library Center, who brings the guessing-game drama and recommendations galore. Plus: Elisa talks about moving to and growing up in the Bronx, the global...Show More
It's Not You, Book, It's Me

40:46 | May 24th, 2018

Frank confesses his sometimes-complicated relationship with certain books and his bouts of book insecurity. Plus: What happens when Frank and Gwen serendipitously read the same book around the same time but don't quite remember it the same way? And a...Show More
The Bronx Gets a New Book Festival

35:49 | May 17th, 2018

Saraciea Fennell, founder of the Bronx Book Festival, joins Frank and Gwen to talk about bringing this event to the borough and the line-up for this weekend. Plus: how Saraciea found her way into the publishing world, zombies, Jane Austen, and a whol...Show More
Gwen's Book Flare

36:31 | May 10th, 2018

What's the opposite of a book slump? We're calling it a flare, and Gwen is on one. She and Frank have a flurry of adult book recommendations, from dystopian novels to innovative science fiction.
Singing in the Library

39:35 | May 3rd, 2018

What happens when you tap the musical talents of NYPL's librarians? Frank and Gwen get to relive their professional recording cameos with Sean Ferguson, manager of Chatham Square Library and a driving force behind the Library's new album for kids.
Peyton DisPlaced

57:05 | Apr 26th, 2018

Another crossover episode with our fine friends from the Overdue podcast! Frank and Gwen join Craig and Andrew in Philadelphia to discuss the 1956 novel Peyton Place. Is it a classic? A soap opera? A groundbreaking statement about sexuality? Is it “r...Show More
The Great Work Continues

34:06 | Apr 18th, 2018

Frank and Gwen's discussion with Dan Kois on Angels in America continues (an epic conversation in two parts!) Plus: a trip to The New York Public Library of Performing Arts in the Upper West Side. Doug Reside, Curator of the Billy Rose Theatre Divisi...Show More
The Great Work Begins

33:18 | Apr 12th, 2018

Dan Kois is a writer and editor for Slate. His recent book is called "The World Only Spins Forward: The Ascent of Angels in America." It's a collection of oral histories, beautifully arranged by Kois and his co-author, Isaac Butler. Together they int...Show More
Hard-boiled Noir

34:17 | Apr 5th, 2018

Frank dives into the dark and depraved world of noir, explains the basics of the genre and delivers a saucy read from one of his favorite books. Gwen does some detective work herself, taking us on her journey of a book rec that takes a dark turn of i...Show More
Visiting the City of Librarianly Love

28:04 | Mar 29th, 2018

Frank and Gwen headed to Philadelphia and brought home the sights, sounds, and book recommendations of the Public Library Association's 2018 conference. Plus, hard-hitting journalism: Is breakfast the most important meal of a librarian's day?
Bedtime Stories

42:13 | Mar 22nd, 2018

Gwen and Frank share books recs for bedtime—good reads for kids of all ages and one read that's definitely for grown-ups only... Plus, if you're at the Public Librarians Association Conference in Philadelphia (March 22nd-23rd) come find Frank and Gwe...Show More
Small (Town Library) Talk

40:53 | Mar 15th, 2018

Frank and Gwen chat with New York Times Features Reporter, Steven Kurutz about his recent Literary Hub essay, "In Praise of the Small Town Library." It's part coming-of-age story, part love letter to his hometown library in Renovo, Pennsylvania. Plus...Show More
The LibROCKian Is In

36:38 | Mar 8th, 2018

Fred and Barney... er, Frank and Gwen are reading books with different approaches to the same question: Who are you and what do you want out of life? (This episode has nothing to do with The Flintstones after the first 30 seconds, but the puns cannot...Show More
Living in the Library

31:32 | Mar 1st, 2018

Actor Sharon Washington joins us to talk about her one-woman play "Feeding the Dragon," based on her experience growing up inside a New York Public Library branch in the 1970s. She tells us about her childhood in the library after hours, and what it'...Show More
The First Rule of Diverse Books Club Is...

35:45 | Feb 22nd, 2018

RuthAnn Deveney from the Diverse Books Club gives us a behind-the-scenes look at her group's themes and book picks, her love of spreadsheets, and her Philly-specific sandwich recommendations. Plus: What will Frank say (or not say) when he goes on The...Show More
New Yaaawk Stories

39:13 | Feb 15th, 2018

All the complexities of the city so nice, they named it twice! Frank goes deep into nostalgia territory, digging up childhood memories, classic accents, and urban anxieties. Gwen follows with a real-life tale of greed and gumption at a famed NYC hedg...Show More
They've Come UnDonne

35:13 | Feb 8th, 2018

Gwen asks, "Is this poem about God?" and Frank is (nearly) brought to tears as they untangle the divine and the bawdy (and naughty) in two John Donne poems. Luckily Dr. Carolyn Broomhead joins them for some much needed poetry therapy. Together they ...Show More
Don't Shush Me!

48:19 | Feb 1st, 2018

It's World Read Aloud Day, and Gwen and Frank are hearing voices from ghosts and robots. But they still manage to keep it together to recommend some books and play an extra round of their guessing game.
How Many Hats Can a Librarian Wear?

36:50 | Jan 25th, 2018

Books and reading are the foundation of any library but your local librarian is doing so much more: computer help, test prep and yes, even knitting. This week, Gwen and Frank talk to Erin Horanzy, an Adult Programming Librarian at NYPL's Francis Mart...Show More
Survey Says...

37:30 | Jan 18th, 2018

IS Margaret Atwood a bad feminist? Yeeeeeesh, we don't know. Frank and Gwen talk about the allegations against Aziz Ansari and then, thankfully, move onto books: nonfiction about young immigrants from El Salvador and a novel about a sci-fi dating exp...Show More
The Beginning or the End?

35:58 | Jan 11th, 2018

This week, Gwen and Frank take on books ranging  from the collapse of modern civilization to a murder "how-done-it" told exclusively from the point of view of a perspicacious fetus.  Get the full list of books discussed at
New Year, New (Reading) You

44:42 | Jan 4th, 2018

Want to broaden your reading horizons this year? Librarian extraordinaire Meredith Mann joins Frank and Gwen to debate the pros and cons of annual reading challenges. Plus: secret database magic, sci-fi written by robots, and our favorite British bak...Show More
Immigrants in America

30:30 | Dec 28th, 2017

Pam Nogales, a Ph.D. candidate at New York University, joins Gwen and Frank to talk about her newest class for Jefferson Market University—the free classes at Jefferson Market that are taught by college professors and open to everyone. They talk the ...Show More
That Episode about 'Cat Person'

38:27 | Dec 21st, 2017

Gwen and Frank take on "Cat Person," the New Yorker story that turned the Internet upside down, and make some book recs based on its tone and subject. Get a full rundown of episodes and links to the books discussed at
Happy Chanukah, Happy Kwanzaa, Happy in General

43:20 | Dec 14th, 2017

Frank didn't feel well this week, but he's figuring out to be happy anyway while Gwen dives into cozy Chanukah romance and Kwanzaa picture books. And did we mention Frank didn't feel well?
Where Are the Fat-Positive Children's Books?

34:33 | Dec 7th, 2017

Spoiler alert: They barely exist! Frank and Gwen talk to librarian and advocate Angie Manfredi about the missing fat kids (and adults) in literature, the importance of body diversity in books, and the danger of creating a monolith of marginalized voi...Show More
This Episode Was Really Hard To Title

39:55 | Nov 30th, 2017

Gwen goes nuts for an alt-history about hippo ranching (IT COULD HAVE BEEN A REAL THING!), and Frank goes nuts for a memoir by incomparable actor and role model Gabourey Sidibe.
A Thanksgiving Best Books Grace-Off!

39:44 | Nov 22nd, 2017

Settle in with your turducken and check out our 2017 Best Books for Kids and Teens! Take a deep dive into NYPL's annual lists, with committee members Grace Yamada and Grace Dwyer debating their favorites and recommending titles. Get links and the ful...Show More
Never Let Me Go. Seriously, Never.

44:42 | Nov 16th, 2017

Gwen and Frank take a deep, emotional dive into a masterpiece by this year's Nobel Prize winner in Literature: Kazuo Ishiguro's Never Let Me Go. Get the full list of episodes at
Frank Brings the Creepy

35:59 | Nov 9th, 2017

Frank has a creepy middle-grade/YA novel that's great for adults, and Gwen has a not-at-all-creepy chapter book for preschoolers and early readers that's sure to also delight parents.
How to Pull Yourself Out of a Book Slump

36:48 | Nov 1st, 2017

Gwen and Frank are both struggling to find the perfect book this week — and coming up with some ideas about how to do it. Plus: the glory that is Ilana Glazer.
Terror! Horror! Revulsion!

38:06 | Oct 26th, 2017

Happy Halloween! Attended by demonic shrieking, adult services librarian Isaiah Pittman horrifies Gwen and Frank with scary book and film recommendations!
Hey, Mr. Producer

35:02 | Oct 19th, 2017

Against his better judgment, the producer of the "Librarian Is In" joins Gwen and Frank to talk books, tattoos, and how the podcast came to be.
Bumming' In The 'Burbs

37:23 | Oct 12th, 2017

This week Gwen and Frank tackle wonderlands, "What Girls are Made Of," mid-life crisises, and no easy ways out...
Shoutout to the Ex

35:22 | Oct 5th, 2017

New NYPL librarian Jenny Chisnell joins the show to talk artist books, The New York Book Fair, and enough of her extraordinarily varied interests and recommendations that Gwen and Frank are immediately exhausted! Find links to the books discussed ...Show More
Heaven Is a Place on... Another Planet?

36:04 | Sep 28th, 2017

Frank and Gwen traverse the globe and beyond this week, with two dystopian YA books about life on other planets and a memoir about international travel, journalism, and feminism. Plus: Banned Books Week and, yes, Belinda Carlisle.
Llama-Famous! Poetry Extravaganza

35:42 | Sep 21st, 2017

Podcasts are red/Podcasts are blue/This episode's all poetry/We hope you like it too!
J.D. Salinger, Whaaaaaat?

49:23 | Sep 14th, 2017

What happens when you get My Brother's Husband, A Lost Lady, and Frog and Toad Together in the same room? Find out as Gwen and Frank discuss gay manga, Willa Cather, J.D. Salinger, and Arnold Lobel's classic books for children!
The Great Nancy Pearl

39:17 | Sep 6th, 2017

Frank and Gwen are beyond thrilled to talk to Nancy Pearl, a.k.a. America's Librarian, a.k.a. the guru of readers' advisory, a.k.a. OUR HERO.
Missing Persons and Nowhere Girls

32:23 | Aug 31st, 2017

On the show this week: Gwen reads a book that makes her see the world a little differently and Franks gets so lost in his book that time dissapears.
Dancing in the Library

39:03 | Aug 24th, 2017

This week Gwen and Frank wander wondrously through the wonderland of Dance led by the dazzling Linda Murray, Lead Curator of the Jerome Robbins Dance Division of NYPL's Library for the Performing Arts.  So, let's boogie! Get links to everything discu...Show More
The Right Book At The Right Time

42:50 | Aug 17th, 2017

Frank and Gwen tackle two powerful narratives of self-acceptance -- and then take respite in a roller derby comic and a love story.
Parker, Postman, and Pooh

50:13 | Aug 9th, 2017

A 30-year-old book remains intensely relevant for today's world, Gwen rediscovers Dorothy Parker AND reading Pooh to her pre-schooler and Frank raps!...(sort of). Get links to all the books discussed and full list of episodes at More
Books That Talk and Books You Touch

32:06 | Jul 27th, 2017

Frank and Gwen learn about the Library's work with patrons with print disabilities with Jill Rothstein, chief librarian at the Andrew Heiskell Braille & Talking Book Library. Plus: More book recommendations than we've ever crammed into any episode, ...Show More
Remembering the Future

38:57 | Jul 20th, 2017

This week, it's all in how you look at it. Feminism, space, time, language, aliens and a whole lot more.
Summer Reading Challenge: Greeks vs. Romans!

43:41 | Jul 13th, 2017

For our second Summer Reading Challenge, Gwen and Frank chose a book for each other that they thought they'd love but would never read otherwise. This year, a strange symmetry emerged as they chose oddly complementary books: a novel about the antics ...Show More

34:48 | Jul 6th, 2017

Who's up for some dubious morality? We're all about the scandal this week, as Frank and Gwen tackle controversial essays, what makes a "beach read," and, um, porcupines in library book drops.
Nancy Books

38:38 | Jun 29th, 2017

The hosts of WNYC's Nancy podcast join Gwen and Frank for a conversation about queer books, making podcasts, and Xena Warrior Princess... and they Skyped in from their vacation, no less!  Subscribe to Nancy wherever you get Podcasts, we highly recomm...Show More
LGBTQ Sci-Fi Book Club

38:08 | Jun 22nd, 2017

How gay is Sci-Fi anyway? Gwen and Frank welcome Casey Maher, leader of the LGBTQ Sci-Fi Book Crew meetup (held at the Jefferson Market Library)! They discuss everything from technology and gaming to science fiction (of course) right on up to Hemingw...Show More
Seeing Yourself on the Page

47:36 | Jun 15th, 2017

The fantastic Sona Charaipotra sits down with Frank and Gwen to talk representation and what it's like to see (or not see) your own experiences reflected in a book. Plus: Archie and Riverdale, Bollywood, Hollywood, and a lot of geeking out over our f...Show More
And Then There Was Chekhov

43:26 | Jun 8th, 2017

Wherein we discuss reading (and acting!) Anton Chekhov, the influence of Agatha Christie, and the controversial merits of Go, Dog. Go!
2017 Summer Reading Challenge

10:19 | Jun 1st, 2017

Join us as we embark on our Summer Reading Challenge!
Dark, Light, & In Between

26:13 | May 25th, 2017

We're swinging from heavy, major, important nonfiction to the frothiest and most delightful YA romance this week.
Attack of the Killer Spelling Bees

39:27 | May 18th, 2017

Our annual spelling bee,  words we can't pronounce, a trio of music recommendations, and of course what we're reading now.
Making Grown Men Cry, Since 2015

33:38 | May 11th, 2017

Sweet-sad poems, ghosts of the Village Past, and melancholy post-Victorian tales of ruined childhoods in creeepy cults... But we manage to have a little fun, too.
Serving the Least Served

35:14 | May 4th, 2017

Libraries and activism with Cory Eckert, one of the joint chiefs of Storytime Underground! We go in-depth on libraries as non-neutral spaces and how children's librarians stand up for social justice. Plus: recommendations for romance novels and two b...Show More
American Passions

39:59 | Apr 27th, 2017

The triumph and tragedy of Jim Thorpe, the difficulty of Henry James, and the ferocity of Emily Dickinson and Camille Paglia. Bonus: Barbra Streisand's underground wonderland!
"Hermione was Black. Dumbledore was Gay."

44:24 | Apr 20th, 2017

The founders of Black Girls Create join us to talk about what it's like to be a black girl nerd, defaulting to whiteness in books and pop culture, nerds vs. geeks vs. dweebs, feminism and visibility and representation -- and, of course, sooooo much H...Show More
Podcasting the Apocalypse

38:02 | Apr 13th, 2017

We’re going weekly!  One week, Gwen and Frank will talk books, culture, and what to read next. On alternate weeks they’ll welcome a very special guest. Let us know what you think!  This week: mesmerizing short stories, our Margaret Atwood obsession, ...Show More
What Lawyers and Librarians Have in Common

1:06:21 | Mar 30th, 2017

Reena Glazer of the Pro Bono Institute joins Frank and Gwen to talk about lawyers in the library and recommendations for great nonfiction about pro bono legal work. Plus: Purple diaries, yellow cable cars, and colorful characters.
Supermodel of the World: Sashay, Shauntee!

42:28 | Mar 22nd, 2017

(Sorry! A previous version of this episode was buggy, but we fixed it. Take a listen, it's a good one!) Wait, Super Model?  Absolutely, but also:  Super Librarian!  Gwen and Frank talk to Outreach Services Librarian Shauntee Burns about her work with...Show More
A Librarian’s Path to Citizenship

1:05:10 | Mar 2nd, 2017

How do libraries help immigrants and underserved communities? Find out with NYPL's very own Adriana Blancarte-Hayward. Plus: major love for great journalism, time travel, ghosts, Frank's hair, frozen yogurt, and Salt 'n Pepa.
Kilts, Cupcakes, and Romance Novels

45:55 | Feb 16th, 2017

Frank and Gwen dive into two very different romance novels with NYPL librarians Annie Lin and Kate Fais.  Plus: a super-clean podcast, a binge-watch-able show, and a gender-bending picture book.
At Home and Abroad

54:36 | Feb 2nd, 2017

With books on the Syrian refugee crisis and American "hillbilly" culture, Frank and Gwen are looking for a deeper undstanding of the world here at home, and abroad. Also, dinosaurs.  And then, the inimitable Nancy Aravecz, NYPL trainee and library-sc...Show More
Lord of the Guys

1:06:26 | Jan 19th, 2017

Overdue in NYC! Frank and Gwen welcome Andrew and Craig of the Overdue podcast for a deep dive into William Golding's 1954 classic, Lord of the Flies. Every reader for him/her/reallyjustHIMself...

55:01 | Jan 5th, 2017

Happy new year! Christopher Platt joins Gwen and Frank to talk about hate crimes, privacy and transparency, and how to start a revolution from your local library. Plus: Project Gutenberg reads, our technological future, and our crush on Carla Hayden.
So Long, 2016

28:12 | Dec 21st, 2016

Welcome to our Very Special Holiday Mini-Episode! We talk about our families' book-giving traditions, Santa stress, and a few random gift suggestions.
Lots of Good Fun That Is Funny

55:22 | Dec 8th, 2016

Children's librarian Louise Lareau joins Frank and Gwen to talk about NYPL's annual Best Books for Kids list and why you should say "underpants" during first-grade storytime. Plus: Eve Babitz, Joan Didion, Zadie Smith, joy, suffering, existentialism,...Show More
Turkeys Strike Back

57:46 | Nov 22nd, 2016

Gwen and Frank are joined by Sarah Ball from NYPL's Correctional Services unit to talk about library services for people in jail or prison. Plus: what we're reading, books we're thankful for, and a whole lot of Frank's singing.
The Woman Behind the Curtain

48:08 | Oct 27th, 2016

Lynn Lobash, manager of Readers Services, peels back the curtain how how to make great book recommendations—and puts Gwen and Frank to the recommendations test.
Halloween Comes Early

1:05:16 | Oct 13th, 2016

As fall sets in and Halloween approaches, things get a little creeeeeeepy in the studio as Frank and Gwen bravely welcome horror expert and YA librarian Brian Stokes.
Sixteen, Going on Seventeen

54:11 | Sep 29th, 2016

Manga madness overtakes the podcast when Frank and Gwen are joined by YA librarian Chantalle Uzan. Plus: Love for Liesel... not so much for Lionel Shriver.
Winnie-the-Podcast, Ep. 21

51:42 | Sep 15th, 2016

Eeyore, Tigger, Kanga, and Roo join Frank and Gwen in the studio this wee... just kidding. But we have the next best thing: Michael Inman, curator of NYPL's Rare Book Division, who tells us about the restoration of the Library's historic Winnie-the-P...Show More
(Literary) Disco Dancing, Ep. 20

49:24 | Sep 1st, 2016

Frank and Gwen are joined by Julia Pistell, co-host of the Literary Disco podcast! We play multiple rounds of guess-the-book, talk about whaling ships and virtual reality and Garfield Minus Garfield, and offer a bazillion book recommendations.
Hot Garbage, Summer in the City, Ep. 19

53:46 | Aug 18th, 2016

Humidity can't exist in outer space! Beat the heat by blasting off into orbit with Frank and Gwen's brand-new segment. Plus: Do audiobooks "count" as reading?
Frankster & The Veve: Ep. 18

52:16 | Aug 4th, 2016

Up for some agony? Frank and Gwen chat about suffering in literature and movies, debate the gender politics of picture books, and hang out with one of our funniest guests ever: Genoveve Stowell, manager of NYPL's new 53rd Street branch. Learn more at...Show More
One Bad Podcast: Ep. 17

54:28 | Jul 21st, 2016

Gwen can barely contain herself this week when she and Frank are joined by Biz Ellis, one of the hosts of the One Bad Mother podcast, to talk kids and parents and books. And Biz's 6-year-old daughter makes a book recommendation! Find show notes and m...Show More
Hogwarts & Hollywood: Ep. 16

38:18 | Jul 7th, 2016

It's the first-ever Reading Challenge episode! Gwen and Frank assigned books to each other to read and discuss on the air. Hijinks ensue...
Reading Us the (Book) Riot Act: Ep. 15

42:09 | Jun 23rd, 2016

Amanda Nelson, managing editor of Book Riot and host of BR's own book recommendation podcast, joins Frank and Gwen to discuss book recommendations. (What else?) Find show notes and more at
Take Me Back to Manhattan: Ep. 14

50:43 | Jun 9th, 2016

Frank and Gwen keep it local this week, from a fashion show at Jefferson Market and Open Book Night with Mid-Manhattan's Elizabeth Waters to a great read about the city's Chintz Age and a karaoke trip around Broadway. Learn more at
Dame Margaret Comes to Town: Ep. 13

55:26 | May 26th, 2016

Margaret H. Willison, a.k.a. The Coolest Funniest Pop-Culture-iest Librarian Ever, joins Gwen and Frank this week for the ultimate high/low-culture episode.
Closer to Fine: Ep. 12

47:46 | May 12th, 2016

Along with Susen Shi from Mid-Manhattan Library, Frank and Gwen reveal their librarianship origin stories on this week's episode. Plus: Self-help books, plays in print, and the legacy of the Indigo Girls. Learn more:
Raspberry Berets: Ep. 11

50:02 | Apr 28th, 2016

Frank and Gwen turn the tables on NYPL's Jessica Strand this week, interviewing the host of Books at Noon about the coolest authors she's ever interviewed herself. Plus: Prince's book-related legacy and Frank's best Carson impression.
Bros, Shakespeare, & Nudity... Not All at the Same Time: Ep. 10

45:26 | Apr 14th, 2016

Doug Reside from NYPL’s Library for the Performing Arts joins Gwen and Frank to talk about the Bard and the Great White Way. He even raps a teeny tiny bit from Hamilton.
What, Wait, What Happened!? Ep. 9 (Bonus Episode!)

52:33 | Apr 7th, 2016

Gwen and Frank discuss books that defy description and throw reality for a loop. Longtime residents of Harlem, Greenwich Village, the Bronx, and more get shout-outs in an interview with NYPL's Alex Kelly about the Library's oral history projects.  Pl...Show More
Grace Jones and Spelling Bees: Ep. 8

42:36 | Mar 31st, 2016

Who's ready to relive some traumatic moments from childhood?! We go toe-to-toe with the winner of the tri-library spelling bee: NYPL's very own Rob Kelley. Also! After taping Rob discovered that both 'pimiento' and 'pimento' are acceptable ways to sp...Show More
All the Feels: Ep. 7

53:09 | Mar 17th, 2016

Earnestness sets in when Singing Children's Librarian Emily Lazio joins us to talk about courage and encouragement, children's classics, and a cool new trend in picture books. Music by Podington Bear: "All Hot Lights" & "Ideas"
Far Out, Friends! Ep. 6

49:57 | Mar 3rd, 2016

We're heading back to the '70s this week! Shola Lynch (of the Schomburg Center for Research in Black Culture) joins us to talk about film, art, collecting history, and what it's like to hug Bert from Sesame Street.
We Love Men! Ep. 5

53:31 | Feb 18th, 2016

Taboo subjects in adult and children's books alike abound on our fifth episode. Plus, find out what makes a "rare book" rare with our very own rare book librarian, Jessica Pigza.
The Podcast That Must Not Be Named, Ep. 4

59:45 | Feb 4th, 2016

Go behind the scenes at BookOps, the Library's special secret spy agen— er, the "technical services" unit. Also: the Helen Ellis/Shirley Jackson/Anita Brookner triumvirate, Frank's shocking Harry Potter confession, and more.
#TeamEdith, Ep. 3

56:07 | Jan 21st, 2016

We talk about how to fit more reading into busy schedules, Lin-Manuel Miranda, horror books and movies, childhood favorites, David Bowie, Lin-Manuel Miranda again, and our love for Downton Abbey’s kind Anna and unstoppable Edith.
Cloning Clooney, Ep. 2

53:10 | Jan 6th, 2016

We talk about feminist comics, The Golden Girls, squids and snails, intellectualism, and -- yes -- cloning George Clooney. Plus Frank and Gwen are joined by NYPL's very own Jason Baumann.
Introducing Ourselves: Ep. 1

1:08:38 | Dec 23rd, 2015

Hello, listeners!  "The Librarian is In" is the New York Public Library's new podcast about books, culture, and what to read next. On this, the very first episode, your hosts Frank and Gwen talk about book shame, their reading origin stories, the glo...Show More