Virginia Heffernan talks to Walter Shaub about the Office of Government Ethics, principled governance, and what it's like to run a federal agency. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/...Show More
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mattu recommended:Dec 15th, 2017
In which Walter Shaub, a former (and reluctant) participant in the Trump cavalcade of Absence of Government Ethics, sounds like a happy-go-lucky, slightly less smug version of Benjamin Wittes. Outstanding episode.