Conversing Podcast
1) Retired from Ministry, Not from the Gospel, with Kenneth Ulmer
What happens when a long pastoral calling ends, friendships fade, and the church faces cultural fracture? Bishop Kenneth C. Ulmer (42 years in ministry at Faithful Central Bible Church in Inglewood, C...Show More
2) How to Reframe an Angry Year, with Michael Wear
Can joy be anything but denial in a rage-filled public life? Michael Wear joins Mark Labberton to reframe politics through the kingdom logic of hope, agency, and practices of silence and solitude. As ...Show More
3) Mary / Christmas, with Matthew Milliner
What if taking Mary seriously actually deepens, rather than distracts from, devotion to Jesus? Art historian and theologian Matthew Milliner joins Mark Labberton to explore that possibility through hi...Show More
4) Faith, Justice, and the Workplace, with Elaine Howard Ecklund
How should Christian faith shape work in an era of pluralism, fear, and systemic inequality? Sociologist Elaine Howard Ecklund (Rice University) is presenting new insights for faith at work through da...Show More
5) Toxic Foreign Policy and Citizen Diplomacy, with Daniel Zoughbie
As global powers double down on militarism and defense, Daniel Zoughbie argues that the most transformative force in the Middle East has always come from citizen diplomacy. A complex-systems scientist...Show More
6) Jewish Perspectives on America, Civics, and Religion, with Michael Holzman
Rabbi Michael G. Holzman joins Mark Labberton to explore the formation of his Jewish faith, the pastoral realities of congregational life, and the multi-faith initiative he helped launch for the natio...Show More
Jewish Perspectives on America, Civics, and Religion, with Michael Holzman
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7) How a Friendsgiving Rescued Me from Despair, with Mark Labberton
In this Thanksgiving reflection, Mark Labberton opens up about a period of darkness and despair, when as a younger man he considered ending his life. But when he was invited to share Thanksgiving dinn...Show More
8) Violence, with Mike McBride
To exist as a black male in America is to be perceived as a threat, where criminality is attributed by default and violence is justified from racial bias. And as a young man, Pastor Mike McBride learn...Show More
9) Black Church and Culture War, with Justin Giboney
How would the black church's public witness guide Christians through today's polarization, culture-war dynamics, and ideological captivity? Drawing from Don't Let Nobody Turn You Around, Justin Gibone...Show More
10) Reading Revelation Responsibly, with Michael Gorman
What is the book of Revelation really about? For ages, it has been the source of sensationalism, idolatry, confusion, and end-times predictions. But at its root, it is about the power and worship of t...Show More