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Sweet and Sour

katie zhu and Nicole Zhu

Sweet and Sour is a show exploring different facets of Asian American life.

21:05 | Jan 9th, 2017

This week, katie and Nicole dive into diversity in Hollywood, centered on a discussion of Margaret Cho and Tilda Swinton’s quest for racial absolution. On the new Can We Not segment: Rappers who only shout out Asian women with references to Chinese t...Show More

32:29 | Jun 8th, 2017

Sonia Chopra, the managing editor of, joins us this week to discuss Asian food trends and how certain foods reach the mainstream, who gets to be an authority on ethnic cuisine, and the importance of authenticity in popularizing food that is...Show More
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33:05 | Aug 1st, 2018

Founder and CEO Mitra Raman takes us behind-the-scenes of The Buttermilk Company, a delivery startup that makes authentic Indian dishes that can be cooked by just adding hot water. She discusses her emotional connection to her mom’s home-cooking, mak...Show More

41:13 | Jul 25th, 2018

Author and founder Diana Zheng shares her journey of leaning into discomfort. Diana discusses her cookbook, Jia! The Food of Swatow and the Teochew Diaspora, digging into the Teochew culture, language and particular nuance of being rooted in China wi...Show More

36:55 | Jul 18th, 2018

Cofounder and chief creative officer Hannah Chung tells us about Sproutel, a patient-centered research and development workshop. She discusses her upbringing in the US and Korea, how she combined her love of art and science into user-centered design ...Show More

28:14 | Jul 11th, 2018

Katerina Jeng and Krystie Mak share the origin story of Slant’d — an independent media company that celebrates Asian American identity through personal storytelling. They share their upbringings, conceptions of being Asian American, and self-care pra...Show More

31:58 | Jun 27th, 2018

Leanna Lin, a curator, buyer, designer, and businesswoman, tells us how she started Leanna Lin’s Wonderland, a family-run gift shop and art gallery based in Los Angeles. She discusses the kawaii aesthetic of her shop and how she selects independent a...Show More

46:58 | Jun 13th, 2018

COO and cofounder Katherine Jin tells us about the evolution of Kinnos, a biotech company that’s raising the standard of infectious disease decontamination. Katherine also discusses her experience in the startup space as an Asian American woman, entr...Show More

38:46 | Jun 8th, 2018

Founder and CEO Alisha Ramos discusses her journey building and and growing Girls’ Night In, a lifestyle brand and community for women who’d rather stay in tonight. Alisha shares how her perspective on her mixed race identity has evolved over time, a...Show More

44:18 | May 31st, 2018

Coleen Baik, an independent product designer, illustrator, and advisor, tells us about striking out on her own. She shares her artistic processes, how she’s come to embrace uncertainty, and her experience visiting North Korea as a Korean American. On...Show More

25:36 | May 23rd, 2018

Founder and designer Theresa Lee takes us behind the scenes of her boutique fashion label, Future Glory, a socially conscious maker of handcrafted leather bags and accessories based in San Francisco. Theresa talks about her edgy side, growing up with...Show More

40:20 | May 16th, 2018

Comedian, writer, and festival organizer Jenny Yang talks about her journey as a recovering overachiever, how she got into comedy, and the way she thinks about her role as an artist and creator. She also discusses the importance of including Asian Am...Show More

28:42 | May 9th, 2018

Author and illustrator Meera Lee Patel discusses her latest book My Friend Fear and how she approaches vulnerability and identity in her art. She shares her pragmatic journey from part-time to full-time artist and talks about the daily philosophies a...Show More

17:27 | Nov 21st, 2017

For the last episode of season one, katie and Nicole reflect on the show so far, share their favorite (and most embarrassing) moments, and discuss their hopes for Sweet and Sour season two and beyond. On Hella Asian, katie brings slurping etiquette t...Show More

27:50 | Nov 16th, 2017

Kelsey Cheng, a potter based in Chicago, talks with us about running a woman-owned business and her side hustle balance. She outlines how her craft and creativity has evolved, and how things like community and social media have influenced her process...Show More

31:03 | Sep 21st, 2017

Lulu Cheng, product manager at Pinterest, talks with us about Asian superstitions around numbers, gift giving, fan death, and more. She dives into how language defines culture — for example, Chinese words that have no real English equivalent. She sha...Show More

45:37 | Aug 15th, 2017

Ankur Thakkar, head of content at Bumpers, talks to us about the internet and how it's helped him get to where he is now. We discussed his time at Vine, its role in democratizing video creation, and what Michelle Obama smells like. We also dive into ...Show More

29:56 | Jul 28th, 2017

Geoffrey Lee, executive chef and partner at Jū-Ni, takes us behind the scenes of his Michelin star omakase sushi restaurant in San Francisco. We discuss his experience as a Chinese American sushi chef and what it was like to receive a Michelin star. ...Show More

30:18 | Jul 12th, 2017

Amy Wibowo joins us this week to chat art, science and everything in between. As founder and CEO of BubbleSort Zines, a monthly zine series illustrating computer science principles, she shares her work to decolonize STEM education and the importance ...Show More

50:53 | Jun 22nd, 2017

Anil Dash, CEO of FogCreek Software, entrepreneur, activist and writer, joins us on the show to discuss his Indian American identity and how he’s working to make the industry more humane and ethical. Anil talks about raising his son and the role of t...Show More

32:05 | May 30th, 2017

We chat with Kaitlin Gu, a software engineer at Google and the cofounder of Flawless Hacks, an annual Beyoncé-themed hackathon for women by women. Kaitlin shares her experience as an Asian woman in technology and tells us about how Flawless Hacks sta...Show More

36:38 | May 8th, 2017

Jason Shen joins us this week to discuss the Asian American Man Study, an annual survey of the experiences and perspectives of American men of East, Southeast, and South Asian descent. Jason breaks down the 2016 results, discussing demographics, race...Show More

40:38 | Apr 17th, 2017

Ellen Wu joins us this week to discuss her book, "The Color of Success: Asian Americans and the Origins of the Model Minority." Ellen breaks down Asian American history from the 1920s onward, analyzing the contradiction of the model minority myth be...Show More

27:42 | Mar 21st, 2017

Preetisha Sen joins us on the pod this week, a proud coconut—brown on the outside, white on the inside. Preetisha talks to us about growing up Indian American, why being Asian American doesn't mean she's always in a constant identity crisis, and how ...Show More

36:45 | Mar 6th, 2017

Elise Hu joins us this week as Sweet and Sour's first foreign correspondent. Elise works for NPR and is based in Seoul. We talk to her about gender stereotypes in Korea and Japan, discuss Asian fetish and its ~consequences~, and what it's like to rai...Show More

28:01 | Feb 20th, 2017

This week, we hang out with Priya Krishnakumar, a visual journalist at the LA Times. We talk to Priya about her overachieving parents, her insecurities as an Indian American, and she gives us her take on the state South Asians in Hollywood. We also s...Show More

21:05 | Jan 27th, 2017

On this week's episode, Felicia Liang joins us for a conversation on art, culture, and everything in between. We talk about her #100daysians project, her creative process, and what's next. On Hella Asian, Felicia flexes her abacus skills and we bond ...Show More

24:19 | Dec 21st, 2016

For our first episode, katie and Nicole discuss their Chinese to American ratio with their parents, Jiming and Li, who also shared their perspective on raising kids in America. katie and Nicole discuss the contradictions of being Asian American, both...Show More

05:43 | Nov 23rd, 2016

A preview of Sweet and Sour, a podcast exploring different facets of the Asian American experience.