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Better Words

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Started by two book bloggers who also happen to be best friends, Better Words is a podcast about books. We'll be having bookish discussions as well as talking to some amazing authors, bloggers and generally awesome people. Grab yourself a cup of tea ...Show More
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42:59 | Aug 8th

In this shorter episode Michelle and Caitlin are chatting about supporting independent book stores, the rise of the beach read, how intimidating literary fiction can seem, a lucky library sale purchase and what the heck Cats is actually about. Stay t...Show More

48:48 | Jul 23rd

The Book Ninjas are back! We welcome Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus back to Better Words to discuss their second bookish rom-com, While You Were Reading. We explore the changes in writing a second book and the publication challenge of including real #bo...Show More
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1:05:29 | Jul 9th

Danielle Wood, Minnie Darke or Angelica Banks? Our guest goes by a few names but we just called her Danielle. You've probably seen Star Crossed on your Instagram and whether you follow astrology or not, it's a very fun read. We talked to Danielle abo...Show More

1:01:59 | Jun 26th

Renee Watson is a New York Times best selling author and has published multiple middle grade and young adult novels. Her poetry and fiction explores the lived experiences of black girls and women, and the intersections of race, class, gender, and bod...Show More

1:13:12 | Jun 11th

Our guest is very well travelled and is now based in Wollongong, New South Wales. Helena Fox is celebrating the publication of her debut, How It Feels To Float. We talked to her about grief being a unique and individual experience, mental health, cha...Show More

1:01:29 | May 28th

Michael is a editor, bookseller and writer who loves children's and young adult literature. While chatting to him, we spent the whole conversation gushing about books. Key topics include Kindred: 12 #LoveOzYA Stories, Underdog Short Stories and his e...Show More

1:16:44 | May 14th

We learned a lot in this episode and we hope you do too. Clare Wright is a historian and award winning author. She talked to us about the Australian's women suffragette movement and how women won the right to vote. We also chatted to Clare about her ...Show More

1:13:21 | Apr 30th

How can we live as our most authentic selves? Sara Tasker is a writer, photographer, business coach, podcaster, Instagram guru and author. She joins us to talk all about the process of writing and putting together her book and living a creative life....Show More

43:18 | Apr 21st

It's our first LIVE episode! So, we've decided to keep it simple and just present to you our interview with the incredible Kate Forsyth at CapriCon Rockhampton 2019. We discuss how a childhood trauma shaped her passion for reading, the origins of fai...Show More

58:36 | Apr 2nd

We're discussing office sitcoms, British TV dramas and astrology all before being joined by Tobias Madden. He is a man of many, many talents! We chat all about Underdog: #LoveOzYA Short Stories, the bookish community, musicals and changing careers.  ...Show More

54:30 | Mar 20th

This week we're discussing Kinky Boots, Harry Potter movies, Underdog short stories, plus an exciting announcement. Our guest is Karyn Sepulveda, author of Letters to My Yesterday, chatting about uncovering the extraordinary stories of ordinary women...Show More

1:05:06 | Mar 5th

To celebrate the release of What I Like About Me, we welcome author and journalist Jenna Guillaume. We discuss her journey to publication, the wonderful character of Maisie, rom coms, Dirty Dancing, body positivity and more. Michelle and Caitlin also...Show More

1:00:45 | Feb 19th

This week we're discussing binge-worthy crime dramas (The Cry and Dirty John), sitcoms (Derry Girls and New Girl), and our brand new Facebook group. Our guest is Angela Meyer, author of genre bending novel A Superior Spectre. We're talking about choo...Show More

1:05:09 | Feb 5th

This week we're talking about that New Yorker article, You, and Mary Queen of Scots. We're also thrilled to be joined by our friend Carly Findlay, whose memoir Say Hello is now on shelves. She's discussing the long editing process, the cover design, ...Show More

1:00:33 | Jan 23rd

Welcome to our first interview of 2019. This week we're delighted to welcome Cristy Burne: science writer and educator, with a swag of children's adventure novels to her name. She's also the author of Zeroes and Ones: The geeks, heroes and hackers wh...Show More

37:06 | Jan 15th

Before we kick off the podcast properly in 2019, we're back to discuss what we read and watched over the Christmas/New Year break. 

1:06:44 | Dec 18th, 2018

Listen in as we discuss and gush all of our favourite things in 2018. From books, movies, TV shows and podcasts to other fabulous things that happened in between. We hope you have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!

1:12:53 | Dec 4th, 2018

We've had a heatwave, fires, storms and a stand up show. That's just our intro! In this wonderful chat with Aussie writer Zoya Patel, we discuss feminism, equality, her migrant experience and fangirl over Mama and Papa Patel. If you've ever felt like...Show More

1:00:59 | Nov 20th, 2018

Jane Caro is an Australian writer and social commentator. We we're very excited to chat to her about her young adult trilogy about Queen Elizabeth I, discussing her research, writing and women in history. Listen also as we wrap up Crimes of Grindelwa...Show More

58:26 | Nov 7th, 2018

This week, author Karen Foxlee is talking to us about her writing process, creativity and the timing of ideas. Caitlin and Michelle are also discussing Bohemian Rhapsody and the brilliance of the new Queen bio-pic.

1:01:58 | Oct 28th, 2018

You think your Harry Potter collection is big? Step aside, because Peter Kenneth's magical library of roughly 1300 Harry Potter editions will take your breath away. In this episode, we chat to Peter about all things Potter from falling in love with H...Show More

1:11:17 | Oct 10th, 2018

Michelle Elman is an all-round fabulous woman. She's spoken at TEDx and has built a powerful social media following after the #scarrednotscared tag went viral. Her memoir Am I Ugly? is a moving journey through multiple surgeries and the way they've s...Show More

50:50 | Sep 25th, 2018

Queensland might be hot, but the gorgeous landscape makes up for it. Fiona Bell joins us to chat about her debut, Waterhole! We discuss writing, publishing, inspiration, English in high schools and what it's like to have your novel taught in the next...Show More

25:25 | Sep 20th, 2018

This week we're joined by editor and agent Danielle Binks for a special minisode celebrating Australian Reading Hour - as if the BW squad needed an excuse to set aside some reading time, right?! Listen for some great recommendations from Danielle inc...Show More

1:15:42 | Sep 11th, 2018

Named London Book Fair's Book Blogger of the Year, Lucy is pretty accomplished. She chats to us about moving internationally, her love for Sydney and rebranding her blog as The Literary Edit! Michelle and Caitlin also give a quick wrap up of their we...Show More

50:41 | Aug 28th, 2018

This week Sally Piper joins us to talk about how her love of nature and the Australian bush influenced her latest novel, The Geography of Friendship. We're also discussing how Sally's previous career as a nurse helps her writing in the most unlikely ...Show More

07:49 | Aug 21st, 2018

Hi everyone, we just have a quick update for you this week. From now on, we'll be doing fortnightly episodes. Thanks! - Caitlin & Michelle

55:38 | Aug 14th, 2018

This week we are joined by Lisa Stephenson whose debut book Read Me First will help you find a new path to success, however you define it. In what is probably our most inspirational interview to date, Lisa walks us through how she wrote Read Me First...Show More

46:45 | Aug 7th, 2018

This week's guest is a writer, mother and former rock groupie. She’s done every job from TV acting to legal counselling to check-out chick and cleaner. We're chatting to Nikki all about her ideas, writing and the difference between writing fiction an...Show More

39:58 | Jul 31st, 2018

We have been doing this for a whole year! Thank you so much for listening and for supporting us over the past year. For our first birthday, we're throwing it back to our first episode and having a Harry Potter party! We're chatting Fantastic Beasts, ...Show More

46:30 | Jul 24th, 2018

Dream of working in a bookshop? Us too! This week we're joined by Mischa from Better Read Than Dead, an iconic store in Sydney's Newtown. We're discussing the weird things customers say, how much of a difference awards and adaptations actually make a...Show More

1:23:27 | Jul 17th, 2018

Want to build a bookstagram feed which will stop people scrolling and get them double tapping? Insta guru Sarah Taviani is joining us for a special workshop covering all elements of improving your feed including photography, content, and account mana...Show More

54:59 | Jul 10th, 2018

Michelle is back from her holiday! But that's not the most exciting thing! 'Does My Head Look Big In This?' and 'When Michael Met Mina' author Randa Abdel-Fattah joins us for an amazing discussion. Michelle and Caitlin say 'wow' a lot and just soak u...Show More

1:00:06 | Jul 3rd, 2018

'Palace of Tears' and 'The Opal Dragonfly' author Julian Leatherdale is the first male guest of Better Words! We're discussing theatre, documentaries, historical fiction, writing and publishing. There's something for everybody in this episode.

41:21 | Jun 26th, 2018

This year is going by so fast! Join us for a full on GUSH fest of everything we've loved in the first half of 2018. We're talking tv shows, movies, music, podcasts and of course, books. Also, there's another update from Michelle and Jack on their Iri...Show More

50:13 | Jun 19th, 2018

This week we're joined by Sarah and Alex of Melbourne's young adult book club, The YA Room. Chatting all about how they got started, hosting book launches and events, to the first YA Day! Hopefully next year we can attend, but until then, listen to o...Show More

1:14:15 | Jun 12th, 2018

Like Kristen Bell? Teenage detectives? Feminist, progressive and sassy TV shows? If you answered 'yes' and haven't watched Veronica Mars then you should! Our discussion about the sassy woman herself will either make you want to watch or rewatch the T...Show More

54:15 | Jun 5th, 2018

Want to spread the bookish love? Ali Berg and Michelle Kalus are Melbourne's own book ninjas and their mission to add a little literature to everyone's day has become a national success. This week they're joining us to talk about Book on the Rain and...Show More

50:59 | May 29th, 2018

This week we are spilling the tea on the latest bookish news and discussing whether creators should leave their characters alone, how many editions of Harry Potter we'll buy and whether 'Netflix for books' is a good idea. Listen on Apple Podcast, O...Show More

1:00:51 | May 22nd, 2018

If you’ve still got a royal wedding hangover, this episode is the perfect antidote as we speak to Claire from the Brit Lit Podcast. But it’s not all about British booms as Claire shares her unique journey to crowdfunded publication and we chat about ...Show More

53:45 | May 15th, 2018

This week you get to hear us catch up on our hectic lives including plenty of beef, cults and live podcasts. We're also sharing mini interviews from LoveYA Day in Brisbane with Steph Bowe, Cath Crowley and Paula Weston.

45:08 | May 8th, 2018

This week we're talking books and business with the women who've been posting goodies across Australia for nearly two years. Each box is lovingly prepared and, as we learn in this episode, hand-packed by Alison and Rebecca who spoke to us as they pre...Show More

39:46 | May 1st, 2018

This week Caitlin and Michelle are sharing the stories behind some of their books! We have souvenirs, gifts and books we came across randomly. All the books on every bookshelf have a story, and we're sharing some of ours in this episode.

53:20 | Apr 24th, 2018

What if you made a decision you couldn't take back? This week, Caitlin and Michelle are joined by author Gabrielle Reid to chat about her debut, 'The Things We Can't Undo'. Listen in to our discussion about writing with teens in mind and how importan...Show More

52:30 | Apr 17th, 2018

Have you seen that movie? Read the book? Which do you prefer? Comparing books to their adaptations is something we all do. This week, Caitlin and Michelle chat about some more recent adaptions from YA contemporaries to dramatic mini series'.

50:52 | Apr 10th, 2018

Have you ever stumbled upon a strange fact and wanted to know more? This week Lauren Chater shares the story behind her beautiful historical fiction debut, sparked by a book about Estonia lace weaving. Lauren, who also has a talent for delicately dec...Show More

53:47 | Apr 3rd, 2018

Sometimes you just feel a little...off. This week we discuss motivation: finding it, keeping it, and building on it. We talk reading and reviewing slumps and some ways to kick them to the curb.

49:02 | Mar 27th, 2018

She's well known as the award winning author of four novels, but Fiona Wood had a successful screenwriting career before turning her hand at books. This week, we discuss what goes on behind the scenes and off the set, as well as how three friends wri...Show More

51:36 | Mar 20th, 2018

Join us as we walk through the White Way of Delight to discuss the delightful Anne (with an 'e'), a character that shaped our childhood. We will be talking about the Cuthberts, bosom friendships and, of course, the only boy whose head we'd ever want ...Show More

1:02:00 | Mar 13th, 2018

How do you create a better understanding of the many diverse lives we're living without representation in the stories we're told from childhood? Faced with a disappointing lack of diverse picture books, Jessica Walton crowdfunded and published her ow...Show More

1:03:53 | Mar 6th, 2018

Bookmarks or dog-earing? Favourite reading spots and whether we listen to audiobooks. This week we're chatting about our sometimes strange reading habits and attempting to explain why we read the way we do.

58:31 | Feb 27th, 2018

What are you going to do after high school? The dreaded question for anyone without a five-year plan. But Kate O'Donnell explains why it's okay not to have a plan post-graduation, the dilemmas faced by teens growing up in rural and regional areas and...Show More

59:40 | Feb 20th, 2018

Truth is stranger than fiction, or so they say. We're diving into true stories this week to share what we love about them, what gets us hooked and some of our favourite non-fiction reads, including plenty of girl power (of course).

1:04:36 | Feb 13th, 2018

Can blogging lead you to a new career? Adele Walsh did just that, transforming her hobby into a career she loves. She shares her tips for people wanting to do the same and discusses the importance of teen-only spaces in the bookish community. Get rea...Show More

1:05:24 | Feb 6th, 2018

Okay babes, listen up. We’re spilling the tea on the latest news including the future of indie bookstores, whether the ‘Gram is ruining art, why book awards are so important and why we’re riled up about the next Fantastic Beasts movie.

1:06:25 | Jan 30th, 2018

This week we’re joined by blogger, speaker and appearance activist Carly Findlay. She’s discussing the mammoth task of memoir writing, ableism and the positive and negative impacts of speaking out online.

1:03:27 | Jan 23rd, 2018

How and why do we review and what happens when we didn’t love the book? This week we chat reviews (the good, the bad and the indifferent) and the relationships between authors and readers. Remember folks, be kind.

1:08:25 | Jan 16th, 2018

This week we’re chatting social media and digital lives with Gabrielle Williams, author of My Life as a Hashtag. She talks us through her writing process as well sharing some special details about her latest project.

57:28 | Jan 9th, 2018

This week we are taking you on stage to share our favourite musical moments. We’re a little bit naughty as we talk about those summer nights and singin’ in the rain in an episode where anything goes.

1:10:12 | Jan 2nd, 2018

Travel is the only thing that makes you richer and this week we’re joined by Tamsien West from Babbling Books, a reader with a wealth of adventures to share. We’re talking about journeys, journaling and the secret to Instagram success. Bon voyage!

53:58 | Dec 26th, 2017

The year is coming to a close! This week, Caitlin and Michelle chat all about their fave books, movies, tv shows and other things they loved about 2017. A lot happened this year, and we're already busy planning the next one.

1:16:00 | Dec 19th, 2017

Sex, bodies, scars and recording the highs and lows of your life online. Nothing is off limits this week as Michelle and Caitlin are joined by the darling Grace Latter. Of course, we’re also talking books and blogging. Settle in with a coffee and mee...Show More

14:06 | Dec 18th, 2017

During December, The YA Room is celebrating LoveOzYA during the whole month! We're thrilled to be involved, airing our first minisode. Discussing our favourite LoveOzYA friendships, glad for any excuse to talk about Aussie books and authors!

57:29 | Dec 12th, 2017

It's the most wonderful time of the year.. This week, Michelle and Caitlin are chatting all about Christmas. Discussing their fave holiday movies, TV specials, music and books. Do you prefer Elf or The Grinch? Pop Christmas music or the classic carol...Show More

58:30 | Dec 5th, 2017

We all know if you get knocked down, you get back up again and it couldn't be more true in the publishing industry. This week, writing and blogging boss babe Margot McGovern explains the story and process behind getting her debut YA novel published. ...Show More

57:01 | Nov 28th, 2017

This week we get a sneak peek behind the scenes of our favourite book store and a taste of the publishing industry. We’re joined by Tonile Wortley from Hachette to talk about the books we don’t even know we want to read yet. Get those Christmas wishl...Show More

1:25:29 | Nov 21st, 2017

This week Michelle is telling us all (including Caitlin) about her trip to the UK! There is stories about adorable dogs, tea, Harry Potter, The Beatles and all that British goodness. Listen in and get ready to book your next holiday!

44:36 | Nov 14th, 2017

This week Caitlin and Michelle are joined by their IRL bestie, Indy of TapsLifeAndBooks! We're chatting about series versus stand alones, our fave series, booktube and sharing some friendship stories! If you're a Cassandra Clare or Sarah J. Maas fan ...Show More

55:54 | Nov 7th, 2017

Michelle and Caitlin are joined by a dynamic sister duo this week, Sarah and Emma from Bottled Books! They've just launched their bookish nail polish business (we can't wait for ours to arrive). We are all obsessed with musicals, nail polish and book...Show More

59:44 | Oct 31st, 2017

Are you a Tina or Queenie? Do you prefer bowtruckles or nifflers? This week, it's all about the costumes, characters and creatures! We're talking all about magizoology after watching Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them!

50:17 | Oct 24th, 2017

Can you name a book from the first line? Are you more into classics or contemporary? Join Caitlin and Michelle as they chat to Lucy Powrie. She's a blogger, Youtuber and host of #UKYAchat at only 17! Get ready to be amazed and inspired by our first i...Show More

1:11:29 | Oct 17th, 2017

We don't have many vices, but books are our weakness. This week we talk all about our growing book collections (including our two little obsessions, can you guess what they are?). Pull up a book stack and join us!

1:04:53 | Oct 10th, 2017

We're obsessed with podcasts, social networks and the media in general. This week, Caitlin and Michelle talk to Bond University Lecturer Caroline Graham about the theory of creative writing and her experience working on a textbook and a novel!

1:01:35 | Oct 3rd, 2017

Ah the never ending TBR list... This week the girls are talking about how they decide what to read and when, their Goodreads habits and how one day you'll find them crushed by piles of books.

59:31 | Sep 28th, 2017

Books can save anyone if they're the right ones, and that's exactly what Caitlin and Michelle are discussing when they chat with Pip Harry about her beautiful, touching new novel Because of You.

1:09:49 | Sep 19th, 2017

We couldn't keep the holiday joy to ourselves... so we're sharing it with all of you! In Brisbane we were all about staying sexy (and not getting murdered), bursting into song and being dangerous women with zero chill.

58:57 | Sep 10th, 2017

... Ready for it? The girls are talking Taylor Swift, holiday reads and girly movies. A perfect match for our chat with Amanda, The Bookish Manicurist. Along with an amazing blog and YouTube channel, this weeks guest has nails to envy!

1:00:44 | Sep 5th, 2017

Blogging, booktubing, bookstagramming... what does it all mean?! Caitlin and Michelle sit down with a cuppa to discuss how writing about books online has changed their lives (and their bookshelves). It's time to hit publish!

1:06:23 | Aug 29th, 2017

There's no need to resort to dog-earing those pages (the horror!) with the sweet handmade bookmarks sold by Nook and Burrow, co-created by Lillytales blogger and booktuber Kate. Find out how Kate turned her hobby into a business and how scents are de...Show More

52:07 | Aug 22nd, 2017

Is the book always better? Or are there times when the best way to tell a story is on the screen? Michelle and Caitlin chat film and television adaptations, popcorn at the ready.

53:37 | Aug 15th, 2017

Is self-publishing really elementary, my dear listeners? Ellie Marney, author of the award-winning Every series, an Aussie Sherlock Holmes retelling, joins Caitlin and Michelle to explain how she took the leap into self-publishing her brand spanking ...Show More

1:11:09 | Aug 10th, 2017

Wide streets, wider skies and... fibreglass bulls? Rocky's own Anna Daniels joins Caitlin and Michelle as they talk about storytelling in regional areas, with a whole lot of love for their own hometown. Pack up the swags, it's time to hit the road.

1:02:05 | Aug 8th, 2017

Saddle up your kangaroo, take a bite of your Vegemite sandwich and grab a glass of Milo to join Caitlin and Michelle chatting to writing wonder woman Danielle Binks. The #LoveOzYA anthology editor talks sharing our culture and positive change in publ...Show More

36:39 | Aug 3rd, 2017

Turns out, Molly is a nickname for Margret. Join Caitlin and Michelle as they talk about some of their favourite childhood books and their difference reading experiences while growing up.

1:01:13 | Aug 3rd, 2017

Are you ready to be inspired? Today Michelle and Caitlin chat to boss babe Gabrielle Tozer. She’s a journalist, copywriter, author, Bachie fanatic and lover of Hawaiian pizza. Gabrielle dishes the dirt on intern life and passes on some career wisdom ...Show More

45:16 | Aug 3rd, 2017

Welcome to Better Words! For our very first episode, we are departing from Platform 9 and 3/4 for a Harry Potter Party! Happy birthday to Harry and J.K. Rowling, let’s kick off our podcast!