Museum Confidential

Philbrook Museum of Art

Think of a museum. Any museum. Which works of art get to be displayed, and which don't, and why? Where do they keep all the unshown (or unshowable) pieces? And why do they keep them at all? And just how does one pack/ship/transport a priceless painti...Show More
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Live From New Orleans: Don Wildman

27:01 | May 31st

For our Season 2 finale we headed down to the Big Easy for a live show to kick off the annual conference of the American Alliance of Museums (AAM). We set up shop inside the beautiful and mouthwatering Southern Food and Beverage Museum for a chat wit...Show More
Every Picture Tells a Story

26:41 | May 10th

There are many examples of writers using paintings and other visual art as inspiration for books. Think "The Girl with a Pearl Earring" or even "The Da Vinci Code." That’s what Donna Baier Stein did when she decided to write a collection stories base...Show More
What Is A Curator?

25:18 | Apr 26th

In our first show recorded in front of a live audience, we explore what it means to be a curator with Philbrook Museum of Art Chief Curator Catherine Whitney and Gilcrease Museum Senior Curator, Laura Fry. Your grandmother probably went her whole lif...Show More
Confronting An Ugly Past

27:25 | Apr 11th

We recently stumbled upon a fascinating blog post written last year by Graham Boettcher, Director of the Birmingham Museum of Art in Birmingham, Alabama. The headline read, “DIRECTOR RECKONS WITH ART MUSEUM’S UGLY PAST” and looks at the museum’s t...Show More
Museum Storage Wars

28:22 | Mar 29th

Museums have a problem. Too much stuff. But whereas you can take a few carloads to Goodwill or set up a yard sale, museums don’t have that luxury. Sometimes they end up building costly expansions just to contain the overflow. New York Times reporter ...Show More
Ask The Experts 2.0

32:01 | Mar 1st

Time for our annual round table chat with three experts from different parts of the art world. The roster includes Hrag Vartanian, editor of the popular arts and culture website Hyperallergic, Philbrook Director Scott Stulen, and artist Sharon Louden...Show More
Glenstone, A Labor of Love

31:52 | Feb 15th

What is Glenstone? It’s an art museum. It boasts over 200 acres of grounds. It’s private. It’s free. Kids and chewing gum aren’t allowed (that’s a little controversial). They only allow a few hundred folks at a time. No pictures. No phones. But don’t...Show More
Paintings for the Future

29:45 | Feb 1st

For the #1 slot on his Best of 2018, New York magazine art critic Jerry Saltz selected an exhibition at the Guggenheim by Swedish artist Hilma af Klint titled “Paintings for the Future.” “The most magnificent sight in New York this year..." Th...Show More
The Savior

27:59 | Jan 18th

Art conservation: It’s sort of a magic trick. But there are immensely talented people using skills and techniques passed down over generations alongside the latest technology. On this episode we chat with Julian Baumgartner of Chicago-based Baumgartn...Show More
The Underground Museum

26:11 | Jan 4th

Close your eyes. Imagine a museum. Open galleries, high ceilings, there’s a guard in the corner wearing a navy or perhaps maroon blazer. It’s quiet, it’s cold, it’s a museum. Those are the stereotypes of course, but you see where we’re going. Museums...Show More
The Grand Vienna Museum: On Wes Anderson and Juman Malouf

31:56 | Dec 21st, 2018

The Kunsthistorisches Museum in Vienna recently asked Wes Anderson, the Oscar-nominated director of “The Grand Budapest Hotel” and “The Royal Tenenbaums”, and his partner, acclaimed designer, writer, and illustrator, Juman Malouf, to take on the garg...Show More
Ninth Street Women

27:39 | Dec 7th, 2018

Pulitzer Prize Finalist Mary Gabriel joins us to talk about her acclaimed new book, "Ninth Street Women." After WWII, when names like Pollock and Rothko were entering the American mainstream, five women dared to enter this male-dominated space–not as...Show More
The World Famous Crochet Museum

25:46 | Nov 21st, 2018

On this episode we head to California’s High Desert with our roving correspondent, Preston Poe (of “The Preston Poe Show” podcast). As we often say, there are many kinds of museums. One of them is a tiny spot in a repurposed photo processing booth no...Show More
John Waters on Indecent Exposure

29:46 | Nov 8th, 2018

Legendary filmmaker and so-called "Pope of Trash" John Waters has a brand new project in his beloved hometown. On view through January 6, 2019 at the Baltimore Museum of Art, "Indecent Exposure" is the first retrospective of Waters' visual arts caree...Show More
The Afterlife of Edward Gorey

32:41 | Oct 26th, 2018

In our special Halloween episode, we step into the macabre with acclaimed writer Mark Dery, author of the new biography, "Born to be Posthumous: The Eccentric Genius and Mysterious Life of Edward Gorey." Often called the “Grandfather of Goth,” Gorey’...Show More
Two Scoops: The Museum of Ice Cream and The New York Times

39:01 | Oct 11th, 2018

We all scream. The Museum of Ice Cream (MOIC) is attempting to blaze a new trail in the museum world. But sometimes that’s a rocky road. First up, a chat with Madison Utendahl, MOIC’s Head of Content and Social. Closing out the show, and for an entir...Show More
The Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia

25:25 | Sep 28th, 2018

Museums aren't always meant to be enjoyable experiences. That doesn't mean they are not important and essential. On this episode, we sit down with Dr. David Pilgrim, founder and curator of the Jim Crow Museum of Racist Memorabilia at Ferris State Uni...Show More
This Old House (Museum)

28:36 | Sep 13th, 2018

This episode offers a chat with Alexis Light, Senior Manager of Media Relations and Marketing at The Frick Collection. She is that NYC museum's thought leader when it comes to public relations, marketing, and social media content. Also, we begin an ...Show More
The Bob Dylan Un-Museum

32:01 | Aug 31st, 2018

In our Season Two opener we sit down with Bob Dylan Archive curator, Michael Chaiken to talk about how they’re trying to NOT make a museum with the forthcoming Bob Dylan Center. We also chat about his path to getting the position, music, and of cours...Show More
Part 15: Museum Mailbag

28:06 | Apr 27th, 2018

On the season one finale we try our hand at a podcast classic, the vaunted “mailbag” episode. We invited social media followers to “ask us anything” about Philbrook or museums in general. We then gathered a panel of experts to provide answers, or at ...Show More
Part 14: Art Church

27:22 | Apr 13th, 2018

The Rothko Chapel, established in 1971 in Houston, is both a sacred space and a modern art mainstay. Dedicated to non-denominational prayer and private contemplation -- and also to international peace and fellowship -- the building routinely hosts le...Show More
Part 13: The Experimental Philosopher

47:25 | Mar 30th, 2018

Let’s be honest, conceptual art is polarizing. Sometimes intentionally so. We explore this and more in a wide-ranging and fascinating chat with self-proclaimed Experimental Philosopher, Jonathon Keats. From his early childhood days selling rocks for ...Show More
Part 12: In The Beginning...

28:03 | Mar 16th, 2018

On this episode we take an in-depth look at the very first Philbrook Director, Eugene Kingman. An acclaimed artist in his own right, Kingman’s journey included stops at Yale, The Rhode Island School of Design, the offices of The New York Times, and t...Show More
Part 11: The Right to Fail: Getting to Know The Museum of Bad Art

27:28 | Mar 2nd, 2018

What are we saying when we refer to a piece as "bad" art? All of us probably have guilty pleasures, or maybe a favorite mistake or two, but what does it mean to seek out and really cherish certain works of bad art? This episode of our podcast feature...Show More
Part 10: The Thing Called Love

39:51 | Feb 16th, 2018

For our special Valentine's Day episode we explore many different kinds of love, from the boomtown couple that founded Philbrook to the supposed foot fetishism of an iconic French artist. Keep an ear out for cameos by Marie Antoinette and Edward Hopp...Show More
Part 9: Best of the West

32:50 | Feb 2nd, 2018

Gilcrease Museum houses the world’s largest and most comprehensive collection of art and artifacts of the American West. This episode features a chat with Gilcrease Senior Curator Laura Fry and special appearances by Neil Young and Henry Kissinger.
Part 8: Poetic License-Inside MoMA

28:11 | Jan 19th, 2018

Explore the bookish side of museums in a revealing conversation with poet, Kenneth Goldsmith, the first and only Poet Laureate at New York City's iconic Museum of Modern Art (MoMA).
Part 7: The Forgotten Man

37:09 | Jan 5th, 2018

Arguably at the height of his career with work in Vanity Fair and Vogue, regularly shooting the likes of Jesse Owens, Gary Cooper, and Katharine Hepburn, photographer Lusha Nelson died in 1938 at the age of 30. His personal archive remained lost unti...Show More
Part 6: Everyone's a Critic

34:11 | Dec 22nd, 2017

Movies and museums. Museums and movies. They go together like popcorn and Milk Duds. On this installment of our podcast, we speak with Charles Elmore of the Oklahoma Film Critics Circle. Topics include memorable motion pictures of 2017, what makes a ...Show More
Part 5: Drawing Conclusions

38:01 | Dec 8th, 2017

Our first in-depth artist chat, with acclaimed photorealist, Karl Haendel. Topics range from the best types of pencils and football to Dutch artist M.C. Escher and politics. See Haendel's work in the current Philbrook Downtown show, "Game On."
Part 4: The Art of the Playlist

47:01 | Nov 22nd, 2017

Sweetness! It's an extended and ever-so-tuneful edition of our podcast for the extended holiday weekend. Listen in as our host Jeff Martin and producer Scott Gregory dig various songs and/or bands inspired by art and/or artists and/or museums and/or ...Show More
Part 3: Ask The Experts

31:01 | Nov 10th, 2017

An in-depth chat with Hrag Vartanian (Hyperallergic) and Sharon Louden, two of the most prominent thought leaders in the art world today. Topics range from early museum experiences to a one-way trip to Mars.
Part 2: The Price of Art

30:17 | Oct 27th, 2017

Explore a different side of legendary actor Vincent Price for our special Halloween episode with Philbrook curator, Christina E. Burke. Guest starring Michael Jackson, Johnny Carson, and Jack Nicholson. Hosted by Jeff Martin and produced by Scott Gre...Show More
Part 1: Big Boss Man

28:01 | Oct 13th, 2017

On the debut episode of Museum Confidential we chat with Philbrook Director Scott Stulen about his rock and roll ambitions, his past obsessions, the show he's been thinking about for years, and much more. We DO NOT talk about cat videos.
Introducing Museum Confidential

01:03 | Oct 10th, 2017

Starting Friday, October 13th, Philbrook Museum of Art and Public Radio Tulsa team up for a new podcast exploring how museums work from the inside out.
Museum Confidential

0:00 | Oct 9th, 2017

Think of a museum. Any museum. Which art works get to be displayed, and which don't, and why? Where do they keep all the unshown (or unshowable) pieces? And why do they keep them at all? And just how does one pack/ship/transport a priceless painting ...Show More