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Whiting Wongs with Dan Harmon and Jessica Gao

Jessica Gao, Dan Harmon, Starburns Audio

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An honest conversation about race and writing between two people who think very highly of themselves. Dan Harmon and Jessica Gao know they won't solve racism in Hollywood, but they still like to talk about it. Sometimes with guests!
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2:05:19 | May 24th, 2018

On the Season 1 finale of Whiting Wongs, Dan & Jessica travel to 101 Noodle Express in Alhambra, CA to talk over an authentic Chinese meal. Plus, we discuss what we've learned throughout the season, whether or not we've changed, and in true Whiting W...Show More

1:57:15 | May 17th, 2018

Dan & Jessica discuss how comedy doesn't age well and shed some light on being a diversity hire, before having a conversation with a scientist with shark experience, Professor Sora Kim! We also discuss diversity in academia, and the nature of intelli...Show More

1:28:06 | May 10th, 2018

This week, we discuss Childish Gambino's "This Is America" video, cultural identity among white Americans, and Jessica states her expectations for her upcoming trip to China. Plus, listener emails about 23andMe, representation on this podcast, and mo...Show More

1:49:50 | May 3rd, 2018

This week, Dan & Jessica go through some listener emails before we get into a heated debate about Matt Groening's response to the Apu controversy. Then, we talk to our guests Dana Han-Klein and Larissa Pruett about biracial identity, stories of stunn...Show More

1:21:06 | Apr 26th, 2018

In true Whiting Wongs fashion, Dan & Jessica sit down with the goal of reading listener emails and get through a total of three. But, we reveal the process for joke-writing in the Rick & Morty writers' room, listen to a POC actor's experience, and at...Show More

1:26:39 | Apr 12th, 2018

This week, we discuss The Simpson's response to Hari Kondabolu's documentary, "The Problem With Apu". Plus, we reveal Jessica's 23andMe results, and finally we reach a poingnant agreement that sheds light on the nature of emotional disagreements abou...Show More

1:19:04 | Apr 5th, 2018

We're joined this week by Sameer Gardezi (Modern Family, Untitled Trevor Noah Project) to talk about Muslim representation in media, the issues with the "good muslim/bad muslim" dichotomy, and more! Plus we talk about Sameer's incredible writers' roo...Show More

1:25:25 | Mar 29th, 2018

With no plans for the episode, Dan and Jessica end up reading and responding to listener emails! We disucss race and the cosplay community, give some career advice to aspiring writers, and talk about the differences between media representation in th...Show More

1:31:05 | Mar 22nd, 2018

From HBO's Silicon Valley, the incredible Jimmy O. Yang joins us this week to talk about his experience auditioning as a POC actor, his new book, and more! We read from his audition log, Dan & Jessica brief Jimmy on "Chinese China", and we get into s...Show More

1:09:45 | Mar 15th, 2018

We're back! This week, we read a listener email and give advice on navigating gender and power dynamics in the writers' room. Also, a story told to Jessica about writers facing rejection leads us into a discussion about racial scapegoating in enterta...Show More

1:21:56 | Mar 1st, 2018

This week, our producer Yusong joins us in the studio, and we answer some of his questions about writing and give some advice! We discuss multiple character arcs, our old writing habits (or lack thereof), and more. Plus, we go heavy on the writing me...Show More

1:26:12 | Feb 22nd, 2018

This week, a Whiting Wongs debate! Dan & Jessica disagree about receiving listener-submitted scripts, which prompts a larger discussion about how to get something read in the entertainment industry. Plus, we talk about the success of Black Panther.

1:42:20 | Feb 15th, 2018

We're joined by the incredible Jas Waters (This is Us, Hood Adjacent) to talk about drama writing, how writing race neutral doesn't necessarily benifit POC characters, and more! Plus we read listener emails and talk about the priviledge and responsib...Show More

1:30:17 | Feb 8th, 2018

This week, we're joined by Dante Basco! We talk about his experiences playing Prince Zuko in Avatar: The Last Airbender and Rufio in Hook, and revisit the idea of appreciate vs. appropration. Plus, Dante reveals his goals of encouraging the next gene...Show More

1:21:56 | Feb 1st, 2018

Dan & Jessica describe the entire process of landing a writing job, and discuss the different skills showrunners look for when hiring writers. Plus, we talk about our early careers, and then Dan riffs a spec script called "Chinese China".

1:24:21 | Jan 25th, 2018

This week, Dan & Jessica read and respond to listener emails, one about gender and one about sex workers. Plus, a story about writing a gender neutral script and the role of casting directors, before the podcast completely devolves into an intense ar...Show More

1:43:39 | Jan 18th, 2018

Andrew Ti (Yo, Is This Racist?) and Ify Nwadiwe (@midnight) join us talk to us about the question "where are you from", different reasons to learn Japanese, and the difference between cultural appropriation and appreciation. Also, we discuss who real...Show More

1:15:02 | Jan 11th, 2018

Whiting Wongs is back! This week, we discuss power dynamics in the writers' room and what should or shouldn't be allowed in terms of behavior. Also, Jessica talks about her previous experiences with difficult workplace situations, and what allies can...Show More

1:19:04 | Dec 21st, 2017

Merry Wongmas! The holiday spirits are high as Dan & Jessica discuss the difference in their drinking styles, read listener emails, and address some errors & omissions. Then, we end the year by answering the age-old question: is enjoying Big Trouble ...Show More

1:33:38 | Dec 14th, 2017

From the Ethnically Ambiguous podcast, Anna Hossnieh & Shereen Lani Younes join us to discuss being Middle Eastern in America, the cultural effects of crying, and the different ways their families dealt with the travel ban. Plus, we learn from a list...Show More

1:21:20 | Dec 7th, 2017

This week, Dan asks Jessica a Chinese question, how race played into a risky Uber ride, and a long discussion about sharks that we struggle to relate to race. Also, we discuss POC writers facing harsher scrutiny and the positives and negatives that c...Show More

1:40:12 | Nov 30th, 2017

Our first ever guest, writer and actor Brittani Nichols (Transparent, Suicide Kale) joins us to talk about her experiences being the only POC in writers' rooms. Plus, we revisit Confederate and answer listener emails.

1:23:15 | Nov 23rd, 2017

Jessica's mom has discovered the podcast, and Jessica's horror leads to a discussion about American families vs. Chinese-American families. Jessica reveals her family's experience during the Mao regime. After some interrogation, Dan's opinion of Chin...Show More

1:16:05 | Nov 16th, 2017

We start by discussing the bottlenecks for hiring a diverse staff and debate how struggling white writers can respond to and recognize privilege. Also, Dan and Jessica teeter on the brink of fighting but are saved by an insane Great Wall metaphor. 

1:09:58 | Nov 9th, 2017

This week, we read a listener email and discuss how whitewashing is less of an issue in Asian countries as it is in the U.S. Dan gives insight on the casting choices for the Community pilot, and we talk about the decisions and arguments that lead to ...Show More

1:10:48 | Nov 2nd, 2017

We take a look at online reactions to the show before discussing racism as a spectrum, how funny a racist joke needs to be in order to be told, and Jessica's first ever (and life altering) experience eating White food: a bologna and cheese sandwich. 

1:30:27 | Oct 19th, 2017

We discuss the yet-to-be-made HBO show Confederate and the hiring process for Rick & Morty Season 3. Dan attempts and semi-succeeds in creating a Whiting Wongs theme song. Email: WhitingWongs@gmail.com Twitter: @whitingwongs Instagram: @whitingwong...Show More

1:29:47 | Oct 19th, 2017

We mention and offer no real insight into the Charlottesville Nazi rally, debate how to handle online trolls, and discuss how TV hiring practices affect writing staff diversity. Dan gets preemptively angry at future critics of the podcast. Email: W...Show More

1:01:28 | Oct 18th, 2017

The origin story of this very podcast is revealed (hint/spoiler: it all started with Pickle Rick). Jessica talks about being a writer of color and the Meritocracy Myth. Dan talks about being a white showrunner. We both wonder who is going to listen t...Show More