Option Five Podcast
1) #168: Vibe Coding In The Real World (Ft. Crema's Senior Devs)
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2) 166: Good at It Doesn't Mean Energized by It (ft. Nathan Ott)
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3) 165: Building Cybersecurity Products People Will Pay For (ft. Mark Carney)
The dangerous gap between “like” and “buy”It’s safe to say that Mark’s career has given him a well-rounded perspective. He’s built products, sold products, serviced products, and advised on products i...Show More
165: Building Cybersecurity Products People Will Pay For (ft. Mark Carney)
37:09 | Oct 29th, 2025
4) 164: Fear Is Not The Enemy of Growth (ft. Aaron Nordyke)
What if fear isn’t the enemy of growth, but a compass pointing toward where you ought to go next? Aaron Nordyke, Head of Product at Drypowder, has built his career by leaning into discomfort rather th...Show More
5) 162: The Fastest Path to Creating Value ft. Jason Houseworth
Even the sharpest product managers can fall into the “project manager” trap. Jason Houseworth, CPO at OpenLane, believes it’s happening in the industry more than PMs care to admit. In this episode, he...Show More
6) 161: Building AI Literacy at Scale ft. Dan Williamson
Description: Most companies jump straight to AI use cases, whereas Dan Williamson at Ryan Companies US, Inc. started with education first. Rather than chasing the bells and whistles or sexy use cases,...Show More
7) 160: The Product Sense Advantage ft. Julia Kanter
Description: Designers are coding, engineers are writing specs, and product managers are prototyping with tools that didn't exist 3 months ago. Julia Kanter, Senior Director of Product at Zillow, has ...Show More
8) 159: How to Build What Matters and Ignore the Rest ft. Mark Vanderweide
Prioritization is one of the hardest parts of product management — and most teams are getting it wrong. They’re chasing the loudest voices instead of real impact. They’re getting distracted by shiny o...Show More
9) 158: How to Read the Data Like a Story and Make Smarter Moves ft. Nate Juraschek
Data vs. gut instinct. What really drives the best product decisions?Nate Juraschek, Head of Product at Telarus, has spent 20+ years navigating the highs and lows of product leadership—from Sprint and...Show More
158: How to Read the Data Like a Story and Make Smarter Moves ft. Nate Juraschek
39:22 | Feb 24th, 2025
10) 157: Navigating the Startup Rollercoaster ft. MoneyLion's Pat McLoughlin
Pat McLoughlin is the Director of Product at MoneyLion and former founder and CEO of Digs, a fintech platform for residential real estate. Digs provides tools that help renters save for their first ho...Show More