Transition Lab Podcast
1) The 2024 Presidential Transition: What Happened? With Heath Brown
The peaceful transfer of power occurred successfully at noon on Jan. 20, 2025, when President Joe Biden handed control of the federal government to President-elect Donald Trump. After an election cycl...Show More
2) How’s the 2024 transition going? With Max Stier
‘Tis the season – and not just for the holidays! The 2024 transition is in full swing, so for this episode of Transition Lab, we invited our CEO and president Max Stier to join us for a discussion of ...Show More
3) Too many cooks in the kitchen? With Lanhee Chen
Assigning one job to two people can be a recipe for disaster. Yet, presidential candidates typically have two policy teams—one for the campaign operation and one for the transition operation. Campaign...Show More
4) How do we build a better government? With Jenny Mattingley
Political pundits wax on about government waste, red tape and inefficiency, but the truth is that while the federal government can learn plenty from the private sector, no magic wand would make govern...Show More
5) How do you become a political appointee? With Kathryn Dunn Tenpas
Getting a job can be really hard—but getting a job as a Senate-confirmed, presidential appointee can be even harder. Today on “Transition Lab,” we welcome Kathryn Dunn Tenpas for a conversation about ...Show More
6) Ever heard of an agency review team? With Melody Barnes
During every presidential transition, flocks of people parachute into agencies across the federal government. From November to January, these agency review teams serve as the bridge between the presid...Show More
7) What if the Constitution had the solutions all along? With Yuval Levin
The federal government seems broken, but it might not be for the reasons you think. In this episode of “Transition Lab,” Yuval Levin talks with us about the surprising ways in which a the U.S. Constit...Show More
8) How do you lead a presidential transition? With former Governor Mike Leavitt
A law on presidential transitions bears former Utah Gov. Mike Leavitt's name for a reason: he wrote the book on managing the peaceful transfer of power from one president to the next. Twelve years ago...Show More
How do you lead a presidential transition? With former Governor Mike Leavitt
40:00 | Sep 3rd, 2024
9) What can we learn from the 2016 transition? With Ann O’Leary and Rich Bagger
We remember the 2016 election as one of the most bruising, knockdown, polarized elections of our time, but behind the scenes, representatives for both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton were quietly pre...Show More
What can we learn from the 2016 transition? With Ann O’Leary and Rich Bagger
53:13 | Aug 20th, 2024
10) Two parties, too many problems? With Lee Drutman
Red versus blue, Republican versus Democrat, liberal versus conservative. Today’s politics are driven by intense partisan conflict, but things haven’t always been this way. In this episode of “Transit...Show More