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So Many Damn Books

Christopher Hermelin + Drew Broussard

Christopher (@cdhermelin) and Drew (@drewsof) talk books, literature, reading, publishing, what's hot and what's not, and try to make it through their never-dwindling stack of things to read. Recorded at the Damn Library in Brooklyn, NY. For show ...Show More
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58:27 | Aug 13th

The night before Toni Morrison passed away, Mira Jacob came by the Damn Library to discuss her new graphic memoir Good Talk and Morrison's Sula. Fueled by tequila and champagne, we get into how playing with paper dolls felt like freedom when compared...Show More

43:52 | Jul 30th

Christopher and Drew get into one of Christopher's dear favorite novels, Larry McMurtry's Lonesome Dove, and why Drew just couldn't finish. They also touch on what type of books you want to read in front of an air conditioner, the satisfying design o...Show More
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35:03 | Jun 25th

Christopher and Drew are in the Damn Library just on their lonesome to talk the city's One Book, One New York choice, Patti Smith's Just Kids. They get right into how it describes a lost New York, and how you might be too old for it at one point, and...Show More

41:53 | Jun 11th

Mona Awad drops by the Damn Library to discuss her new novel Bunny with Christopher and Drew. They get into fairy tales, and making magic real, and the horror potential of the MFA workshop. Plus, Mona brings an old favorite of hers, Rebecca Godfrey's...Show More

59:34 | May 28th

Alternative comics legend Seth drops into the Damn Library on his tour for his career-defining Clyde Fans. He and the guys get into the medium of comics itself, and the things it's good at expressing in the realm of human emotion, as well as why you ...Show More

45:22 | May 14th

Erin Somers stays up with the Damn Library to talk her new novel, Stay Up With Hugo Best. Everyone gets into phantasmagoric Late Night universe making, and then into how there's meaning in melancholy, and sometimes it's better to buckle down even whe...Show More

51:19 | May 3rd

Myla Goldberg drops by the Damn Library and immediately gives Christopher and Drew two new business ventures. And that's before they even start talking about her new book, Feast Your Eyes, and its museum catalog form, where she got the photographs, h...Show More

54:08 | Apr 16th

Lauren Wilkinson shows up in the Damn Library to talk about her novel American Spy, and everyone gets into the ways in which this is like a spy novel, and it isn't, and the portrayal of real life people, and how to grapple with your fears by putting ...Show More

58:06 | Apr 2nd

Leanne Shapton drops by the Damn Library for a spook-filled episode to discuss her new collection, Guestbook: Ghost Stories. Christmas wrapping paper, first stage appearances, tennis, and being haunted all get some airtime along with lots of other se...Show More

16:36 | Mar 31st

The tournament! It's over! And now we go over just what happened, and how it feels, and what books we hope are maybe in the tournament next year, as well as talk about that looming Mega Rooster...Ca-caw!contribute! drink r...Show More

09:57 | Mar 25th

Another week of the Tournament of Books, another grouping of recaps, plus predictions about the week ahead!contribute! drink recipes, book lists, and more, visit: somanydamnbooks.commusic: Disaster Magic(https://soundcloud...Show More

49:57 | Mar 19th

Halle Butler joins Christopher and Drew in the Damn Library to discuss her new novel, The New Me, and how she thought of domestic thrillers while she wrote it, and tried to create comedy out of millennial burnout and not having the clearest picture o...Show More

14:53 | Mar 17th

Tournament of Books 2019 continues apace! We talk about the zigs and the zags of the opening round, and where we think that the zigs and zags will come next week. Zigs and zags!contribute! drink recipes, book lists, and mo...Show More

11:38 | Mar 10th

It's tournament of books time again, so here's a recap of what went down this week, along with the expected wild speculation.A caw-caw to all of you.contribute! drink recipes, book lists, and more, visit: somanydamnbooks.c...Show More

30:14 | Mar 5th

After reading Ian Parker's "A Suspense Novelist’s Trail of Deceptions" piece from the New Yorker, Christopher and Drew get into unreliable narrators and what they hold (or are purported to hold). Drew talks about his love of midlist thrillers, and Ch...Show More

53:40 | Feb 19th

Charlie Jane Anders teleports into the Damn Library for a very sci-fi episode around her new novel, The City in the Middle of the Night. Anders talks tidally locked planets, the gargantuan effort it took to write her new novel, being accurate vs. wri...Show More

38:53 | Feb 5th

Karen Thompson Walker drops in to dream a little dream with Christopher and Drew in the dreamy Damn Library to discuss her new novel, The Dreamers. They discuss outbreak fiction, writing about college, and what-if scenarios, as well as Kazuo Ishiguro...Show More

21:52 | Jan 22nd

Christopher and Drew decide on their shared 4 favorite reads of the year, and add in one personal pick. But they don't stop there! They mention a couple 2018 reads that are next up on their lists, a favorite read in 2018 but not published in 2018, an...Show More

20:05 | Dec 19th, 2018

Christopher and Drew give gifts, and then talk about the gifts that So Many Damn Books is giving to non-profits, and finish up with some good gift books to get other people in these last few shopping days. Merry merry!contribute to the patreon: patre...Show More

57:19 | Dec 11th, 2018

Jonathan Lethem drops into the Damn Library and the guys are damn excited to have him. They talk about Lethem's new one, The Feral Detective, of course, but they also talk about his work as a whole, and how his books are in conversation with each oth...Show More

45:34 | Nov 27th, 2018

It's a celebration of stories in translation (both linguistically and narratively), indie bookstores, and bourbon on the latest SMDB when Preti Taneja joins the guys in the Damn Library. Her debut novel, We That Are Young, provokes conversation about...Show More

53:45 | Nov 13th, 2018

All the way from Iceland, Sjón joins the guys in a Damn Library annex, aka the FSG offices. The conversation ranges from ghosts to unicorns, from golems to Frankensteins, from self-representation to translation, as they discuss the maximalist, fabuli...Show More

53:58 | Oct 30th, 2018

For their 100th episode extravaganza, Drew and Christopher put together a list of their 100 most beloved/most meaningful/most important books, contributing 50 each. Listen as they go through (some of) them. They also try a couple new segment ideas! S...Show More

41:29 | Oct 9th, 2018

Drew and Christopher host HarperCollins' senior art director for a chat about book cover design, the hipness of text, trends in design, and more, plus how everyone has a Murakami phase, and some surprising things about the behind the scenes of book m...Show More

37:08 | Sep 27th, 2018

Christopher and Drew hang out with a whiskey+tea cocktail and just give themselves over to the book chat. First: BUY YOURSELF A TOTE! The "My Other Car is a Book" tote is now available for your purchase. Then they get into vacation reading, never rea...Show More

37:28 | Sep 11th, 2018

Christopher and Drew bring back the One Book, One New York episode for another go, this time reading the city's choice of Jennifer Egan's Manhattan Beach. They talk its pleasures, and diving costumes, and the possibilities of New York, as well as the...Show More

43:28 | Aug 14th, 2018

R.O. Kwon buzzes in with her buzzy book, The Incendiaries, and the guys get to talk to her about stuff like campus novels, North Korea, how likely they would be to join a cult, and also Rachel Khong's Goodbye Vitamin, and how to write lightly about d...Show More

44:53 | Jul 31st, 2018

Megan Abbott returns to the Damn Library for her new book Give Me Your Hand, and Christopher cooks up a color changing cocktail to celebrate. The guys get into Megan's dual jobs as novelist and tv writer, her thriller philosophy, and how writing peop...Show More

1:02:47 | Jul 17th, 2018

John Hodgman joins the gentlemen in the Damn Library to talk about all sorts of things, from a Borges scholar posing for a picture to reading rehab after being a professional literary agent. A blueberry-based beverage is enjoyed. We talk his new book...Show More

18:56 | Jul 10th, 2018

Christopher and Drew hang in the Damn Library and talk about the books they've liked so far this year, the books they are going to read next, and some of the books they are excited about that are soon to be in the world. The book titles come fast and...Show More

59:19 | Jun 12th, 2018

Hannah Pittard drops back into the Damn Library after writing and editing and publishing an entire new novel called Visible Empire! While drinking a cocktail featuring guava and egg white, she and the guys get way into 1962, how you need to make sure...Show More

53:57 | May 29th, 2018

Stephanie Danler drops by the Damn Library for a second go around, this time to talk the Sweetbitter television adaptation she created, now on Starz. We discuss the Disneyland of production, why writers' rooms are great, and how she doesn't really li...Show More

58:16 | May 15th, 2018

For the first time ever, a graphic memoirist stops by the Damn Library in the form of Amy Kurzweil, author of the graphic memoir Flying Couch! She also draws New Yorker cartoons! Listen as we chat about form and tone, board games and heartbreak, and ...Show More

33:25 | May 1st, 2018

Christopher and Drew hang out and explain themselves. They also talk their jobs, and formative reading experiences, and other subjects. music: Disaster Magic - Pier 6 ( contribute! for drink reci...Show More

51:29 | Apr 17th, 2018

Jonathan Ames, writer of novels like Wake Up, Sir and I Pass Like Night, as well as series creator of Bored to Death and Blunt Talk, sits down in the Damn Library to talk his new pulp novella, You Were Never Really Here, as well as how he wrote funny...Show More

11:59 | Apr 13th, 2018

Christopher and Drew talk about PEN's 2018 World Voices Festival - check out their website of events! music: Disaster Magic - Desert Snake and Coconut Crab ( contribute! patr...Show More

44:24 | Apr 3rd, 2018

Ruth Curry joins the guys in the Damn Library fresh off her #TOB18 judge-ship to chat about all sorts of things, like balancing her reading life and her work life, what she reads for at Emily Books, and why she has a Tiny Letter. We also get to chatt...Show More

15:21 | Mar 30th, 2018

Oh my gosh! It's over! Listen to me and Drew talk about what we thought about the Tournament this year, and also, a couple books we really wish had been in the tournament! Bok bok to you! Become a sustaining member of the Tournament! https://themorn...Show More

18:37 | Mar 23rd, 2018

Oh my gosh it's still the tournament and we are feeling the madness! Listen to us talk about what's gone on so far, and also, some of the past tournament injustices! Become a sustaining member of the Tournament! More

51:52 | Mar 20th, 2018

Christopher and Drew wrestle up Gabe Habash to drink, chat, and be merry. Christopher serves everyone a very strange cocktail based on Habash's Stephen Florida, then dive right into the very strange headspace of Mr. Florida. They discuss plot points ...Show More

16:36 | Mar 13th, 2018

Christopher and Drew prognosticate! The first round is still underway, but we still wanted to talk about what's gone on so far, and what might happen for the end of the round. Become a sustaining member of the Tournament! More

53:55 | Mar 7th, 2018

John Darnielle, lead singer of the Mountain Goats and writer of Universal Harvester and Wolf in White Van, sits down in the Damn Library for a far-ranging conversation covering everything from addiction to translated fiction. They talk about being fr...Show More

09:24 | Mar 7th, 2018

Even though the Tournament won't officially start until after this episode has been posted, we're champing at the bit to get some prognostications going. So, for all you other ToB diehards - this one's for you. 9 minutes of tournament talk with Chris...Show More

58:09 | Feb 20th, 2018

Rachel Lyon sits down in the Damn Library as the first guest of 2018. She presents her incredible new novel Self-Portait with Boy, and the guys ask questions about it, like about camera research, and changing DUMBO, and other New York-type things. Th...Show More

51:53 | Feb 6th, 2018

Katherine Faw drops into the Damn Library to talk about things like drugstore sushi, writing about women with ambition, and nail art. Then they all chat about Fleur Jaeggy's Sweet Days of Discipline and how it subverts the expectations of the normal ...Show More

29:51 | Jan 30th, 2018

Christopher and Drew chat about their Top 6 books of 2017 - the 4 books they both agree on, and then 2 that only one of the guys puts on the top of the pile. They also pontificate on the book that'll win the 2018 Tournament of Books, and list some th...Show More

56:44 | Dec 19th, 2017

Uli Beutter Cohen (Subway Book Review), Bianca Bosker (Cork Dork), and Nozlee Samadzadeh (TMN's Tournament of Books) join Drew and Christopher in the Damn Library for a holiday-tinged book club discussion of Tom Hanks' Uncommon Type. Hanks' status as...Show More

59:06 | Dec 5th, 2017

E. Lockhart settles into the Damn Library for a long chat about Genuine Fraud, her new novel, as well as touching on her other works, like Disreputable History of Frankie Landau-Banks, and We Were Liars. Then John Green's new book, Turtles All the Wa...Show More

31:14 | Nov 21st, 2017

So Many Damn Books heads to the movies and sees Kenneth Branagh's (mustache's) Murder on the Orient Express, based on the Agatha Christie novel. What you want in an adaptation is discussed, as well as dream adaptations, and adaptations the guys are l...Show More

50:12 | Nov 7th, 2017

Carolyn Murnick joins the guys in the Damn Library to discuss her memoir, The Hot One: a memoir of friendship, sex, and murder. Along with discussing that subtitle and the cover, the trio discuss Pop Culture's helpfulness in navigating murder and cou...Show More

46:56 | Oct 10th, 2017

New to Brooklyn (having moved here from Spain), Edgar Cantero drops by the Damn Library with some Meddling Kids and discusses with Drew and Christopher his detective phase, coming up with his style, and why it's easier to write car chases in English....Show More

45:10 | Sep 26th, 2017

To celebrate the 75th episode of So Many Damn Books, Christopher and Drew bring the Damn Library to the FSG offices to talk to Robin Sloan about his novel Sourdough and Eugene Lim's Dear Cyborgs. Food vs tech, analog vs digital, specific pop culture ...Show More

45:52 | Sep 12th, 2017

When Amelia Gray stops by the Damn Library, Christopher turns a drink blue again, and they discuss her new book, Isadora. Particularly: what it was like to write a book about a dancer during a time when she wasn't dancing. A quote about dancing is mi...Show More

29:00 | Aug 29th, 2017

Without a guest, the guys make good on their TMN Tournament of Books bet- Drew chose Jonathan Lethem's Motherless Brooklyn. They talk about what matters in a noir, Lethem tackling Tourette's, and enjoying a book about where you live, amongst other su...Show More

43:26 | Aug 15th, 2017

When Samantha Hunt drops by the Damn Library, the guys try to put a shadow in her drink but just end up with something more blood colored. They discuss her story collection, The Dark Dark, the Normas in one's life, and ticks, as well as transcending ...Show More

50:37 | Aug 1st, 2017

In the Damn Library, Christopher gets an egg white cocktail egg-zactly right for Rachel Khong, author of Goodbye, Vitamin and also All About Eggs. He and Drew also chat with Rachel about the inner/outer voice of the critic, using family as inspiratio...Show More

55:51 | Jul 18th, 2017

Rosecrans Baldwin, who indirectly provided the beginning for the SMDB podcast, stops by the Damn Library to talk about his exceptional "HBO series of a novel," The Last Kid Left. Youth is discussed, as well as getting characters right, stopping into ...Show More

45:51 | Jul 3rd, 2017

MARLENA MARLENA MARLENA! Julie Buntin drops into the Damn Library to talk her terrific debut novel, Marlena, and gets into whether she's a Marlena or a Cat, if there's a real Spicy Bob's Pizza, and what she was hoping to get to at the core of her cha...Show More

48:41 | Jun 20th, 2017

Alissa Nutting, author of Made for Love (and also Tampa) joins the guys in the Damn Library to talk surveillance state and let the guys bring up the dolphin sex, and the importance of first sentences. They also talk about Randa Jarrar's Him, Me, Muha...Show More

53:02 | Jun 6th, 2017

Elif Batuman joins Christopher and Drew in the Damn Library, and they all imbibe a drink called "The Dissertation" which can smack the words off the tip of your tongue. They discuss Batuman's The Idiot, and being nicer to your college self, and how y...Show More

23:41 | May 23rd, 2017

The guys decide to participate in One Book One New York, get on the bandwagon, and finally read Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie's Americanah. They discuss Obama, getting bloggers right, and what it's like for a city to read along together. Plus, they launch...Show More

52:15 | May 9th, 2017

Bianca Bosker, author of Cork Dork: A Wine-Fueled Adventure Among the Obsessive Sommeliers, Big Bottle Hunters, and Rogue Scientists Who Taught Me to Live for Taste saunters into the Damn Library with gusto. She and the guys discuss books that make y...Show More

46:59 | Apr 25th, 2017

When Melissa Febos stops by the Damn Library to talk about her new book "Abandon Me," Christopher goes "Beyond Booze" for the drink, and Drew is also there, because of course he is! They talk pop psychology, gift giving, and everyone having different...Show More

39:54 | Apr 11th, 2017

Nozlee Samadzadeh-Hadidi, producer of The Tournament of Books for The Morning News, drops by the Damn Library to help wrap up this year's tournament with Christopher and Drew. Drinks are drunk, ancient history is drudged up, least favorites are spill...Show More

51:58 | Mar 28th, 2017

Just before winning a Whiting Award, Kaitlyn Greenidge brought her debut novel "We Love You, Charlie Freeman" to the Damn Library. She confesses to hating animals, amongst other deep explications, and then we switch to talking the genre of "sexy-cken...Show More

50:49 | Mar 21st, 2017

Jonathan Lee takes a dip into the Damn Library, talking his novel High Dive over a cocktail named after chlorine that surely doesn't taste like chlorine. The ensuing discussion includes fatherhood, pool water, and political awakenings - particularly ...Show More

46:20 | Mar 14th, 2017

Francine Prose joins C+D in the Damn Library for some lively talk of theater that misses the mark, thwarted ambitions, and following the characters of her newest novel, Mister Monkey. They also get into Hangsaman by Shirley Jackson, and Francine hear...Show More

23:20 | Feb 28th, 2017

Drew and Christopher take a break from tournament reading to enjoy some books that break the mold, namely Alejandro Zambra's Multiple Choice and Sarah Manguso's Ongoingness. The merits of breaking the mold is discussed, along with other topics, like ...Show More

48:52 | Feb 14th, 2017

Other than this sentence, not a single reference to Valentine's Day is in this podcast. Megan Abbott stops by the Damn Library with her newest novel, You Will Know Me. We discuss prodigies and the grit of teenage gymnasts, and then dismount the pomme...Show More

26:37 | Jan 31st, 2017

After a long hiatus, Drew and Christopher are back in the Damn Library, explaining what the Tournament of Books is, why they like it, and what seems like the favorite to win this year.  New logo by Jefferson Wiggins. GO BUY A TSH...Show More

47:50 | Dec 19th, 2016

Snowed in, the guys decide to record an episode, because why not? They discuss L. Frank Baum, and then an unexpected visitor shows up in the form of Uli Beutter Cohen, founder of Subway Book Review and co-creator of the new literary newsletter Eye Le...Show More

32:22 | Dec 12th, 2016

In this one, the guys look to escape their lives for a bit with some epic fantasy, and they do so via a duologetic ticket to Leigh Bardugo's Grisha-verse. After they extoll the book's virtues and consider the difficulties of escapism, they jump into ...Show More

46:17 | Nov 29th, 2016

The indomitable, incomparable Lisa Lutz stops by the Damn Library for a career retrospective. Drew and Christopher very nearly contain their rabid fandom and talk the Spellman Files series, "The Passenger," "Heads You Lose," and "How to Start a Fire,...Show More

47:58 | Nov 14th, 2016

Christopher and Drew are joined by Jade Chang to chat about a road trip, writing what is most challenging, and aliens. Jade likes how cozy it is in the library and the guys love how cozy "The Wangs vs. The World" is as a novel. Then the aliens, becau...Show More

38:22 | Oct 19th, 2016

Kathleen Donohoe drops by the Damn Library to talk about her book, Ashes of Fiery Weather, and all the historical disasters contained within, as well as her personal connections to Brooklyn. Surprise '98 National Book Award winner Charming Billy by A...Show More

39:00 | Oct 3rd, 2016

Hannah Pittard stops by the Damn Library to drink a classic cocktail bastardized by a substituted ingredient and discuss her book "Listen to Me" and Iain Reid's "I'm Thinking of Ending Things." Dread is discussed, as well as what makes for a good thr...Show More

39:09 | Sep 16th, 2016

Christopher and Drew invite Teddy Wayne to the Damn Library, and he brings along his new "zeitgeist-y" novel, Loner, as well as Rebecca Schiff's short story collection The Bed Moved. The literary reader's intelligence is praised, the drink is overtly...Show More

42:30 | Aug 31st, 2016

Christopher and Drew are joined by returning guest Alexandra Kleeman. They all drink a cocktail named after a character who moonlights in both her short story collection "Intimations" and, maybe, within Robert Coover's "Pricksongs and Descants." They...Show More

31:57 | Aug 23rd, 2016

Christopher and Drew drink Firewhiskey Juleps and get feisty about the new story in the Harry Potter-verse. Fan fiction, Sherlock Holmes, and second Death Stars are amongst the subjects mentioned. No one gets hurt. 15 seconds of a song: Harry and the...Show More

21:05 | Aug 4th, 2016

Christopher and Drew sit down with a whiskey drink sweetened with the blood of maraschino cherries, and discuss Donna Tartt's marginalized sophomore novel, The Little Friend. Unjustly pushed to the side? Or lesser entry in the Tartt Canon? They also ...Show More

40:01 | Jul 18th, 2016

Evan Hanczor, chef at Egg in Williamsburg, drops by the damn library with Tortilla Espanola and the tale of serving a meal inspired by Zora Neale Hurston's classic, Their Eyes Were Watching God. The connection of food and fiction is discussed. Drew g...Show More

17:20 | Jun 28th, 2016

Christopher and Drew decide it's never too early for list making, and choose six favorites from the year to date (2016). Then they get out their crystal ball and look forward to books coming out for the rest of the year. Summertime reading, awayyyyy!...Show More

29:57 | Jun 14th, 2016

Drew and Christopher tackle YA through the 2001 classic Stargirl by Jerry Spinelli and the 2016 Printz Award Winner, Bone Gap by Laura Ruby. Grand theories are posited, the state of YA is considered, the line between YA and regular lit is blurred. No...Show More

43:41 | May 31st, 2016

Stephanie Danler, author of the highly recommended Sweetbitter, joins the guys in the Damn Library for a chat about anything and everything. Food, identity, sex - you name it, they talk about it. TWO cocktails are imbibed and Maggie Nelson's exceptio...Show More

34:09 | May 18th, 2016

Alexander Chee stops into the Damn Library for a Lilliet and a discussion of his novel The Queen of the Night. Drew and Christopher ask after pop culture parallels and fidelity to nonfiction. They also discuss Garth Greenwell's What Belongs to You an...Show More

27:40 | Apr 27th, 2016

Drew and Christopher see if they can draw any comparisons between the current election and Hunter S. Thompson's other Fear and Loathing book. Not the one that he goes to Las Vegas. Gonzo journalism is discussed, but sadly, not Gonzo from the Muppets....Show More

42:31 | Apr 14th, 2016

And that's a wrap! What a tournament of books that was! Tournament of Books producer Nozlee and former contestant (with his book A Brave Man Seven Storeys Tall) Will Chancellor stop by the Damn Library to talk believability, tooth truths, good tourne...Show More

23:44 | Mar 28th, 2016

Drew and Christopher talk their brackets and re-reading. They wax nostalgic on the week past and dive deep into the remaining match-ups as we head into the finals. Plus, a bookish wager on who will take the Rooster home. 15 Seconds of a song: The Aqu...Show More

32:00 | Mar 21st, 2016

Katy Waldman stops by the Damn Library to drink "The Rooster" and prognosticate. Jane Austen keeps getting updated, the trio relives the first round of the TOB's ups and downs, and then a deep dive into Fates and Furies by Lauren Groff somehow reveal...Show More

42:15 | Mar 14th, 2016

Angela Flournoy, author of the Turner House, stops by the Damn Library, fresh off her Tournament of Books win in round one against Ban en Banlieue. She and the guys talk where she was when her novel published, whether or not she believes in ghosts, a...Show More

39:11 | Mar 8th, 2016

It's tournament time!! Christopher drinks a Slaughtering Mary, Drew and Maris Kreizman don't. They all discuss Maris' book/blog Slaughterhouse 90210 and Kickstarter, and then delve into the complexities of The Invaders by Karolina Waclawiak. There's ...Show More

45:09 | Feb 24th, 2016

Over a round of Dark and Particularly Stormys, Drew and Christopher have the pleasure of chatting, friendly-like, with Mark de Silva, author of Square Wave, out now from Two Dollar Radio. Jazz is discussed! So is Donna Tartt! And Misogyny! And how Br...Show More

40:50 | Feb 10th, 2016

Laura Van Den Berg stops by the Damn Library to talk about her novel Find Me and Yoko Tawada's The Naked Eye. We also find out what tv show she can't stop repeating, and discuss a lot about getting lost, both physically and in translation. Plus, she ...Show More

23:23 | Feb 3rd, 2016

Christopher and Drew can't contain their excitement - the short list for the Morning News' ToB 2016 is here, and they are discussing every title. They also explain this whole tournament business, talk snubs and loves, and teach you a new cocktail to ...Show More

24:07 | Jan 13th, 2016

Drew and Christopher talk about what books they were given for Christmas, 2016 reading goals, experimentally designed books they love, and then Eli Horiwitz's The Pickle Index which they tried to experience it every which way it came out. App recomme...Show More

11:15 | Dec 30th, 2015

The damn hosts choose 4 books they loved in 2015, and one book each that the other didn't read/love. Also, one to grow on. Bye-bye, 2015! You were a year. 15 seconds of a song: The Jackson 5 - Never Can Say GoodbyeLearn more about your ad choices. Vi...Show More

47:24 | Dec 17th, 2015

Marie-Helene Bertino stops by the deck hall'd Damn Library in full seasonal good cheer to talk about her novel, 2 A.M. at the Cat's Pajamas. Holiday music is played. A Little Life is discussed. Butter is pondered. Gifts are given! A very happy holida...Show More

35:37 | Dec 2nd, 2015

Ryan Britt stops by the Damn Library to explain the deeper meanings of why Luke Skywalker Can't Read (which is also the title of his new essay collection). The guys then discuss a classic Star Wars novel - Heir to the Empire by Timothy Zahn - over Pa...Show More

45:27 | Nov 17th, 2015

Alexandra Kleeman takes So Many Damn Books down the rabbit hole as Drew and Christopher discuss her novel, You Too Can Have a Body Like Mine, as well as the novel The Blind Owl. Everyone gets unsettled. 15 Seconds of a Song: Lucy Rose - Middle of the...Show More

33:29 | Nov 7th, 2015

The two nonmaj/muggles discuss Harry Potter spinoffs, whether or not they listen to music when they read, and Carrie Brownstein's memoir Hunger Makes Me a Modern Girl. ~15 seconds of a song: Sleater-Kinney "The Fox"Learn more about your ad choices. V...Show More

43:18 | Oct 23rd, 2015

Christopher institutes a new buying books rule for himself, Drew likes scary books, and they both have very different opinions on City on Fire by Garth Risk Hallberg and Purity by Jonathan Franzen.Learn more about your ad choices. Visit More

31:18 | Oct 6th, 2015

The gentlemen discuss their favorite book they've read for the podcast so far, a few books they'd like to see in the next Tournament of Books, and tell you how to win a copy of City on Fire by Garth Risk Hallberg. Amongst other things.   15 seconds o...Show More

46:28 | Sep 22nd, 2015

With Drew under quarantine (he caught the plague), the guys call on Will Chancellor to step in. He returns to the Damn Library to go deep with Christopher on Jesse Ball's latest novel, "A Cure for Suicide". 15 Seconds of a Song: Del Amitri, "Roll to ...Show More

43:03 | Sep 10th, 2015

Vanessa Manko drops in to talk about how writing is like dancing, her novel The Invention of Exile's editing journey, and they all discuss The English Patient, and suggest a novel they'd like to see made into a movie.   Fifteen seconds of a song: Fou...Show More

1:01:39 | Aug 25th, 2015

Isaac Fitzgerald skates by the Damn Library and joins the guys to talk about his Pen & Ink series, Kathleen Alcott's "Infinite Home", and the joys of recommending books. Hilarity ensues. Also maybe some 80s metal.   Fifteen Seconds of a Song: Belle &...Show More

28:56 | Aug 12th, 2015

The guys introduce a new segment ("Reading Comprehension"), which leads to some serious questions. They also discuss their summer reading habits, the Man Booker longlist, and Christopher continues to shame Drew for not reading "A Little Life". Learn ...Show More

26:48 | Jul 28th, 2015

In which Drew and Christopher wonder what spumoni is (it's ice cream), talk about the books they bought, discuss Elena Ferrante and the first book in her Neapolitan saga, and they recommend books to each other, like usual.   15 seconds of a song: Mam...Show More

27:03 | Jul 14th, 2015

Summer break is over and the guys return to the Damn Library to discuss graphic novels, comics, brimping, and Matt Fraction & Chip Zdarsky's "Sex Criminals".   15 Seconds of a Song: "Desire", Years & YearsLearn more about your ad choices. Visit megap...Show More

56:18 | Jun 8th, 2015

BuzzFeed Literary Editor Saeed Jones drops by the Damn Library to talk about his PEN/Joyce Osterweil Award-winning collection "Prelude to Bruise", Claudia Rankin's incendiary "Citizen: An American Lyric", and whether or not art can change the world. ...Show More

42:49 | May 18th, 2015

In which Lev Grossman visits the Damn Library to talk about his Magicians trilogy and (one of his) favorite book(s) of all time: Virginia Woolf's "Mrs. Dalloway". 15 Seconds of a Song: "Magic" by Ben KwellerLearn more about your ad choices. Visit meg...Show More

31:30 | May 5th, 2015

The Guys discuss the business of recommending books, then they discuss Whiskey Tango Foxtrot, a @biblioracle recommendation. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

43:39 | Apr 20th, 2015

In which Catherine Lacey (author of "Nobody is Ever Missing") drops by the Manhattan branch of the Damn Library! Drinks are made, bathtubs are revealed, and escape is discussed (among many other things).Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megapho...Show More

55:20 | Apr 10th, 2015

The guys chat with ToB Commish Kevin Guilfoile about the ToB and his writing, then get some friends from the commentariat on the phone including Neighbors73, BradMcGinty, Melanie, and itsonlyzach.  The ToB is over, long live the ToB!Learn more about ...Show More

33:54 | Mar 29th, 2015

More Surprises and More Upsets in the Tournament! Jeff VanderMeer discusses "Annihilation" and the ToB! Predictions for the final! Featuring The Aquabats - Fight Song (still) and Laura Shigihara - Zombies On Your Lawn (from the Plants vs. Zombies OST...Show More

45:22 | Mar 22nd, 2015

One year of Friendship Surprises and Upsets in the Tournament of Books John Warner talks his role in the tourney, McSweeney's, and "Tough Day for the Army" The Biblioracle Chooses a Book Recommendations Featuring The Aquabats - Fight Song (still) and...Show More

1:03:49 | Mar 8th, 2015

"A Brave Man Seven Storeys Tall" The Settlement, a "Brave Man"-inspired cocktail Will Chancellor is Very Smart ToB15 prognostications and considerations Recommendations Featuring The Aquabats - Fight Song and Cindy Lauper Learn more about your ad cho...Show More

44:41 | Feb 23rd, 2015

Guest Star: Luke Wiget Event Books "The Bone Clocks" by David Mitchell Recommendations Farewell to Luke and the DoctorDR studio Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

51:53 | Feb 9th, 2015

Teaser Audiobooks "Everything I Never Told You" by Celeste Ng Interview: Emily St. John Mandel (author of "Station Eleven") Recommendations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

38:15 | Jan 26th, 2015

Stephen King, Stephen King, Stephen King First King Favorite King Stephen King's "Revival" Recommendations Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

28:39 | Jan 12th, 2015

Happy New Year! Non-Fiction Celebrity Memoirs "Not That Kind of Girl" by Lena Dunham Recommendations 15 Seconds of a Song: The Blow, "Come On Petunia" / The Guys Sing The Police Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

31:27 | Dec 29th, 2014

Reading Habits Literary Awards Missing Person by Patrick Modiano Drew and Christopher's Top 5 of 2014 Lists 15 seconds of a song: DJ Deville's Auld Lang Syne Remix recorded at the Dr. Doctor studio in Brooklyn, NY.sound engineer: Luke WigetLearn mo...Show More

31:59 | Dec 15th, 2014

"A Christmas Carol" Postertext Giveaway (Tell your friends to listen to the show on social media and email us about it at to enter!) Holiday Stories Pastiches The Beekeeper's Apprentice by Laurie R. King Parting Recommendati...Show More

22:54 | Dec 1st, 2014

Holiday Theme Music! Second Chance Authors Gimmicks Horrorstör by Grady Hendrix Parting Recommendations recorded at the Dr. Doctor studio in Brooklyn, NY.sound engineer: Luke WigetLearn more about your ad choices. Visit

29:03 | Nov 17th, 2014

The Future Library Project, Margaret Atwood, and authors we think should be included next Games in Books Wolf in White Van by John Darnielle Parting Recommendations recorded at the Dr. Doctor studio in Brooklyn, NY.sound engineer: Luke WigetLearn m...Show More

25:40 | Nov 3rd, 2014

Welcome Back Kids Series to Revisit The Southern Reach Trilogy by Jeff VanderMeer & The Magicians trilogy by Lev Grossman Parting Recommendations recorded at the Dr. Doctor studio in Brooklyn, NY.sound engineer: Luke WigetLearn more about your ad ch...Show More

24:17 | Oct 20th, 2014

Introductions Classics Revisited Dystopia Station Eleven by Emily St. John Mandel Parting Recommendations recorded at the Dr. Doctor studio in Brooklyn, NY.sound engineer: Luke WigetLearn more about your ad choices. Visit