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Co-discussants Anna Holmes, Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby host a lively multiracial conversation about the ways we can’t talk, don’t talk, would rather not talk, but intermittently, fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture,...Show More
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#1704: What have we learned?

58:38 | Jan 28th, 2017

We wrap up the show with Anna Holmes, Baratunde Thurston, and Tanner Colby reflecting on what they’ve learned through this experiment in multiracial dialogue, and the ways in which we can’t talk, don’t talk, would rather not talk, but intermittently,...Show More
#1703: Women’s March, Women’s Show

56:32 | Jan 21st, 2017

Anna Holmes, Raquel Cepeda, and Irin Carmon try to absorb the reality of Trump’s now official presidency, and discuss the Women’s March happening just hours from this podcast hitting your feed.
#1702: Better Off…?

42:58 | Jan 14th, 2017

Anna Holmes, Fazeelat Aslam, and Tanner Colby talk about the assertion that President Obama made in his farewell address that we’re better off in terms of race than we have been in the past 10, 20, 30 years.
#1701-B: The “Will You Be My Black Friend?” B-Side

40:52 | Jan 13th, 2017

Anna Holmes, Tanner Colby, and Fazeelat Aslam discuss listener feedback to episode #1701: “Will You Be My Black Friend?”
#1701: Will You Be My Black Friend?

1:01:42 | Jan 7th, 2017

Anna Holmes, Aisha Harris, Tanner Colby, and Gene Demby discuss what it’s like to be asked for advice on being better allies, and where to draw the line on when and where people of color should feel like they need to help white folks out.
#1652-B: The “Your 2017 Survival Guide” B-side

20:52 | Jan 7th, 2017

Anna Holmes, Tanner Colby, and Gene Demby discuss listener responses to Episode #1652: “Your 2017 Survival Guide.”
#1652: Your 2017 Survival Guide

47:52 | Dec 30th, 2016

Raquel Cepeda, Baratunde Thurston, and Tanner Colby bring you their best recommendations for preparing for 2017, from books, to podcasts, to literal survival gear. Happy New Year!
#1650-B: The “Thanks, Obama” B-side

41:12 | Dec 30th, 2016

Baratunde Thurston, Tanner Colby, and Raquel Cepeda discuss listener responses to Episode #1650: Thanks Obama.
#1650: Thanks, Obama

43:29 | Dec 17th, 2016

Anna Holmes is joined by Rebecca Carroll from WNYC and the LA Times as well as Slate.com’s Jamelle Bouie to discuss the Obama presidency and what the end of an era means for them and African-Americans in general.
#1649-B: The “Sorry To Burst Your Bubble” B-Side

13:21 | Dec 17th, 2016

Anna Holmes talks with Rebecca Carroll from WNYC and the LA Times as well as Slate.com’s Jamelle Bouie about listener responses to episode #1649: Sorry To Burst Your Bubble
#1649: Sorry To Burst Your Bubble

1:01:55 | Dec 10th, 2016

This week, Baratunde Thurston and Tanner Colby are joined by ESPN’s Latoya Peterson and The New Republic’s Sarah Jones to discuss what information, cultural, and political bubbles mean, and whether it’s even a good idea to try to break out of them.
#1648-B: The “The End of Identity Politics?” B-Side

30:20 | Dec 9th, 2016

Baratunde Thurston and Tanner Colby are joined by ESPN’s Latoya Peterson and The New Republic’s Sarah Jones to discuss listener responses to episode #1648: “The End of Identity Politics?”
#1648: The End of Identity Politics?

38:37 | Dec 3rd, 2016

Anna Holmes and Tanner Colby discuss the recent bunch of think pieces that have argued both for and against an end to identity politics with MTV News’ Jamil Smith and The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer. Is the 2016 election the end of political appeals to mi...Show More
#1646-B: The “F’d Up Cornucopia of Resentment” B-Side

21:02 | Dec 3rd, 2016

Anna Holmes and Tanner Colby are joined by MTV News’ Jamil Smith and The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer to respond to listener emails about episode #1646: The “F’d Up Cornucopia of Resentment.”
#1646: A F'd Up Cornucopia Of Resentment

1:04:37 | Nov 19th, 2016

This week we’re checking in with Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, Anna Holmes, and documentary filmmaker and reporter Fazeelat Aslam to get a handle on how everyone’s feeling and reacting to the spike in hate crimes and harassment in the wake of Tr...Show More
#1645-B: The “Trying To Make Sense” B-side

22:11 | Nov 18th, 2016

Anna Holmes is joined by Baratunde Thurston and Tanner Colby to discuss your feedback from episode #1645: Trying To Make Sense.
#1645: Trying To Make Sense

56:45 | Nov 12th, 2016

We’re trying to make sense of the results of the election, where the United States is going, and what we can even allow to become the new normal. Anna Holmes is joined by Tanner Colby, CNN Money’s Tanzina Vega, and The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer to help ...Show More
#1644-B: The “The Klan’s Invite to Your Scandal Watch Party” B-side

11:55 | Nov 11th, 2016

Anna Holmes is joined by Tanner Colby, Tanzina Vega of CNN Money, and The Atlantic’s Adam Serwer to talk about listener responses to episode #1644: The Klan’s Invite To Your Scandal Watch Party.”
#1644: The Klan’s Invite to Your Scandal Watch Party

54:22 | Nov 5th, 2016

Anna Holmes, Baratunde Thurston, and Tanner Colby are joined by Latoya Peterson of ESPN’s The Undefeated and Racialicious.com to discuss the disappearance of Vine, the six-second video app, and what it means for ownership of creative platforms for pe...Show More
#1643-B: The “Getting Pee From A Diaper” B-side

24:26 | Nov 4th, 2016

Anna Holmes, Baratunde Thurston, and Tanner Colby are joined by Latoya Peterson of ESPN’s The Undefeated and Racialicious.com to discuss listener feedback to episode #1643: Getting Pee From A Diaper.
#1643: Getting Pee From A Diaper

1:01:31 | Oct 29th, 2016

Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby join Anna Holmes to discuss their favorite new TV series, “Atlanta,” who it’s made for, and why it makes them uncomfortable in a good way. (SPOILERS!)
#1642-B The “Fight For Your Voting Rights” B-side

11:57 | Oct 28th, 2016

Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby join Anna Holmes to talk about listener feedback to episdoe #1642, “Fight For Your Voting Rights” and more.
#1642: Fight For Your Voting Rights

35:51 | Oct 21st, 2016

Anna Holmes and Tanner Colby are joined by The Nation’s Ari Berman to talk about the last presidential debate, a little history on voting rights, and what’s stopping people of color from voting in bigger numbers today.
#1641-B: The “Asian-Americans Represent!” B-side

11:16 | Oct 21st, 2016

Anna Holmes and producer A.C. Valdez are joined by The Nation’s Ari Berman to discuss listener feedback about episode #1641-B: “Asian-Americans Represent!” and more.
#1641: Asian-Americans, Represent!

54:26 | Oct 15th, 2016

Uyen Tieu of I Am Asian American and The Mashup Americans’ Amy Choi join Anna Holmes to talk about the political and cultural representation of Asian Americans.We want you to tell us about the podcasts you enjoy, and how often you listen to them. So ...Show More
#1640-B: The “What Do You Mean, Community Policing?” B-side

24:00 | Oct 14th, 2016

Uyen Tieu of I Am Asian American and The Mashup Americans’ Amy Choi join Anna Holmes to discuss listener feedback to episode #1640: What Do You Mean, Community Policing?We want you to tell us about the podcasts you enjoy, and how often you listen to ...Show More
#1640: What Do You Mean, “Community Policing”?

47:32 | Oct 8th, 2016

Anna Holmes and Raquel Cepeda are joined by WNYC’s Lee Hill to discuss the vice presidential debate and what exactly politicians mean when they talk about community policing.We want you to tell us about the podcasts you enjoy, and how often you liste...Show More
#1639-B: The “Podcasting from Donald Trump’s Hell” B-side

29:02 | Oct 7th, 2016

Anna Holmes and Raquel Cepeda are joined by WNYC’s Lee Hill to discuss listener feedback to episode 1639, “Podcasting from Donald Trump’s Hell.”We want you to tell us about the podcasts you enjoy, and how often you listen to them. So we created a sur...Show More
#1639: Podcasting From Donald Trump’s Hell

44:22 | Oct 1st, 2016

Hosts Anna Holmes, Raquel Cepeda, Tanner Colby, and Baratunde Thurston come together to dissect the first 2016 presidential debate.
#1638-B: “The Press, The Election, and Race” B-side (aka Racist Gumbo)

29:11 | Oct 1st, 2016

Anna Holmes and the original About Race crew of Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby take a listen to your feedback on episode 1638: “The Press, The Election, and Race.”
#1638:The Election, The Press, And Race

56:27 | Sep 24th, 2016

Anna Holmes, Tanzina Vega, and Tanner Colby are joined by Jamelle Bouie to discuss the way the press has handled issues of race throughout the presidential election season, as well as the implications of the police assassinations of Black men in Tuls...Show More
#1637-B: Ladies First B-side

15:33 | Sep 23rd, 2016

Anna Holmes, Tanner Colby, and Tanzania Vega discuss listener feedback to episode 1637, Ladies First.
#1637: Ladies First

54:41 | Sep 17th, 2016

It’s the first ever all-woman episode of About Race as Raquel Cepeda returns to talk with Anna Holmes and Rebecca Carroll about Marco “That taco truck Trump supporter guy” Gutierrez and whether we can expect a “Blacklash” to the current moment in Bla...Show More
#1636b: Is Kaepernick Kicking A Hornet’s Nest B-side

20:14 | Sep 16th, 2016

Anna Holmes is joined by Raquel Cepeda and Rebecca Carroll to discuss listener responses to episode 1636, Is Kaepernick Kicking A Hornet’s Nest?
#1636: Is Kaepernick Kicking A Hornet’s Nest?

56:30 | Sep 10th, 2016

Anna Holmes and Tanner Colby are joined by MTV News Senior National Correspondent Jamil Smith to talk about Colin Kaepernick, Donald Trump’s appearance at a Black Detroit church, and the Dakota Access Pipeline. 
#1635b: Cold Empathy For Nate Parker B-side

15:00 | Sep 9th, 2016

Anna Holmes and Tanner Colby are joined by MTV News Senior National Correspondent Jamil Smith to hear your reactions to our discussion about Nate Parker and Georgetown’s first steps at addressing its role in slavery.
#1635: Cold Empathy For Nate Parker

56:24 | Sep 3rd, 2016

Co-discussants Tanner Colby, Anna Holmes, and Baratunde Thurston are joined by writer Roxane Gay to tackle the many dimensions of the rape scandal surrounding The Birth of a Nation filmmaker Nate Parker, as well as Georgetown University’s initial ste...Show More
Save the date: September 2nd

03:07 | Aug 12th, 2016

Hi everyone! We're coming back on September 2nd, with Baratunde, Tanner, Raquel, and the newest member of About Race, Anna Holmes. We'll also be featuring guests from all kinds of backgrounds, and responding, as always, to listener emails and voice m...Show More
#019: The “Drive By" Episode

26:01 | Feb 16th, 2016

Hosts Raquel Cepeda, Baratunde Thurston, and Tanner Colby miss their listeners. Here they come together to discuss the next season, Hillary versus Bernie, #OscarsSoWhite, Beyoncé's "Formation," and what's next.
#018: The “Because Colonialism" Episode

48:14 | Nov 25th, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda, Baratunde Thurston, and Tanner Colby, and special guest Jay Kang of the New York Times magazine debate whether xenophobia is quintessentially American and critique Aziz Ansari’s new Netflix show. Our National Conversation About C...Show More
#017b:The “Carson Follies" B-side

36:01 | Nov 24th, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda, Baratunde Thurston, and Tanner Colby are joined by New York Times magazine’s Jay Kang to respond to your thoughts on Episode 17. Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is brought to you by the Rachel Maddow show...Show More
#017: The “Carson Follies” Episode

1:01:46 | Nov 11th, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby, and special guest Jamil Smith try their best to decipher Dr. Ben Carson’s pyramid theories and disputed technicolor Horatio Alger claims, and the social media backlash to a recent call for a kinder, gentler handl...Show More
#16b: The “Diversity Drinking Game" B-side

38:10 | Nov 11th, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby are joined by New Republic Senior Editor Jamil Smith to dole out some advice and address listener feedback to Episode 16. About Race is brought to you by The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC. Watch Rachel as she breaks...Show More
#016: "The Diversity Drinking Game" Episode

58:32 | Oct 27th, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda, Tanner Colby, and Slate culture writer, Aisha Harris, explore why people of color are on TV screens but not in writers rooms, if Shonda Rhimes is a special effect, and ask if on-campus coddling is actually a thing. Our National C...Show More
#15b: The “White People Do Journalism Like This” B-side

29:52 | Oct 27th, 2015

Raquel Cepeda, Tanner Colby and special guest Aisha Harris discuss listener questions and feedback from Episode #015: “White People Do Journalism Like This.” Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is brought to you by the Rachel Mad...Show More
#015: The “White People Do Journalism Like This” Episode

54:43 | Oct 14th, 2015

Raquel Cepeda, Tanner Colby and special guest Rebecca Carroll discuss diversity in the newsroom and the fluidity of race. Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is brought to you by the Rachel Maddow Show. Every weeknight MSNBC’s Ra...Show More
Ep. 14b: The “A-word” B-side

35:30 | Oct 12th, 2015

Raquel Cepeda, Tanner Colby and special guest Rebecca Carroll discuss listener questions and feedback from Episode #014: "The A-word." Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is brought to you by the Rachel Maddow Show. Every weeknig...Show More
#014: The “A-Word” Episode

49:09 | Sep 30th, 2015

Baratunde Thurston, Tanner Colby and special guest Anand Giridharadas discuss assimilation gaffes from the campaign trail and school integration in Brooklyn.
#013b: The “Whither Whiteness?” B-Side

36:13 | Sep 29th, 2015

Baratunde Thurston, Tanner Colby and special guest Anand Giridharadas discuss listener questions and feedback from Episode #013: The "Whither Whiteness?" Episode This show is sponsored by The Rachel Maddow Show on MSNBC.
#013: The “Whither Whiteness?” Episode

55:52 | Sep 17th, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda & Tanner Colby discuss yellowface in poetry and white identity as expressed by Donald Trump's ride-or-die supporters with New Republic Editor Jamil Smith. www.showaboutrace.com   Today's show is brought to you by Casper. Get $50 t...Show More
#012B: The B-Side

41:44 | Sep 16th, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby are joined by New Republic Senior Editor Jamil Smith to talk about segregation in education, owning your experience as a person of color, and respond to other listener feedback. www.showaboutrace.com Today's show ...Show More
#012: The “Baratunde Who?” Episode

57:26 | Sep 2nd, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby are joined by Nikole Hannah-Jones of the New York Times and Anna Sale of WNYC, to talk about education and integration as well as about visiting New Orleans on the 10th anniversary of Katrina.
#011b: The “All Aboard the Wine Train” B-Side

35:18 | Sep 1st, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby are joined by award-winning journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones to discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #011, The “Black Protests Matter” Episode.
#011: The "#BlackProtestsMatter" Episode

54:33 | Aug 19th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby discuss #BlackLivesMatter feeling the post-disruption Bern of his ride-or-die fans and Uber's accidental anti-racism.     SOURCES Reflecting on #BlackLivesMatter and Bernie Sanders on Race   ht...Show More
#010b: The "To Coddle or Not to Coddle" B-side

43:32 | Aug 18th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #010: The "Quaaludes in my Jello" Episode.
#010: The "Quaaludes in my Jello" Episode

48:52 | Aug 5th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston and Raquel Cepeda are joined by special guest Farai Chideya to talk about surviving Bill Cosby, his legacy,  and the most recent spate of deaths in police custody. We are sponsored by Audible. Get a free audiobook and 30-day ...Show More
#009b: The "Fragile White" B-Side

39:23 | Aug 4th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and special guest host Farai Chideya discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #009: The "Comedy Trumps Fragility" Episode. We are sponsored by Audible. Get a free audiobook and 30-day trial today ...Show More
#009: The “Comedy Trumps Fragility” Episode

53:51 | Jul 22nd, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda, Tanner Colby, and special guest Jay Smooth discuss white fragility, the Donald Trump effect, and political correctness in comedy. Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is sponsored by Casper. Get $50 toward any...Show More
#008b: The “Cancel your Punta Cana Wedding” B-side

32:09 | Jul 21st, 2015

Hosts Raquel Cepeda, Tanner Colby and special guest host Jay Smooth discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #008: The "Confederate Dementia" Episode.   Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is sponsored by Casper. Get...Show More
#008: The “Confederate Dementia” Episode

1:00:55 | Jul 7th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss the presidential response to the Charleston massacre, the push to purge Confederate symbols, and the humanitarian crisis brewing in the Dominican Republic. Our National Conversation Ab...Show More
#007b: The "Ally-Oops" B-Side

28:19 | Jul 7th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #007: The "Dolezaled Out" Episode Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is sponsored by Audible.com, who has more than ...Show More
#007: The "Dolezaled Out" Episode

53:23 | Jun 23rd, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss the strange saga of Rachel Dolezal, the problem with allyship, and the violence faced by women who aren't just pretending to be black.   About Race is sponsored by MailChimp. More than...Show More
#006b: The "Difference Between Annoyance And Oppression” B-Side

33:27 | Jun 23rd, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #006: "The Prophet Muhammad and Mixed Race Meritocracy" Episode   About Race is sponsored by MailChimp. More than 7 million businesses aro...Show More
Bonus Track: Dope - Slate's Spoiler Special

27:15 | Jun 22nd, 2015

In this special podcast mash-up, Dana Stevens of Slate's Spoiler Special sits down with the hosts of Panoply's new show About Race: Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby. They discuss Dope, filmmaker Rick Famuyiwa's sly new comedy about...Show More
#006: The Prophet Muhammad and Mixed Race Meritocracy

49:47 | Jun 9th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Tanner Colby , and special guest Anand Giridharadas discuss the backlash to Muhammed cartoon contests, mixed-race beauty standards, and the bamboo ceiling in college admissions.     About Race is sponsored by MailChimp. More...Show More
#005b: The “No More Than 13 Boxes” B-Side

22:52 | Jun 8th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Tanner Colby and guest host Anand Giridharadas discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #005: The "I Check All The Boxes" Episode. About Race is sponsored by MailChimp. More than 7 million businesses around the ...Show More
#005: The "I Check All The Boxes" Episode

56:27 | May 26th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss the controversial New York Magazine feature "Can Racism Be Stopped in the Third Grade?"; the perils in store for black academics on social media; and the first season of ABC's "America...Show More
#004: The B-Side

21:23 | May 26th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #004: The “Recorded After Certain Events in Baltimore" Episode.   About Race is sponsored by MailChimp. More than 7 million businesses aro...Show More
#004: The "Recorded After Certain Events in Baltimore" Episode

56:27 | May 12th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss the media's treatment of recent events in Baltimore; why black women, Latinos, and Native Americans are being left out of the current debate on police brutality; and a new study on rac...Show More
#003: The B-Side

30:09 | May 11th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss listener questions and feedback about Episode #003: The "Recorded Before Certain Events in Baltimore" Episode.   Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race is sponsored b...Show More
#003: The "Recorded Before Certain Events in Baltimore" Episode

49:03 | Apr 28th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss the first season of ABC’s ‘Fresh off the Boat’; the complicated politics of whites adopting racial identities that are not their own; and the social media phenomenon of the Dixon Chall...Show More
#002: The "Could Black Lives Maybe Start to Matter Just a Little Bit?" Episode

51:06 | Apr 14th, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss the shooting of Walter Scott in South Carolina, the colorism debate surrounding Kendrick Lamar's fiancee, and the laughable attempts of Mindy Kaling's brother to use affirmative action...Show More
#001: The “Hey Starbucks, Will You Sponsor Us?” Episode

51:31 | Mar 31st, 2015

Hosts Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda, and Tanner Colby discuss the Starbucks “Race Together” fiasco; the issues of race, class, and identity raised in This American Life’s “Three Miles” episode; and the ongoing debate over black celebrities and “T...Show More
Promo: Our National Conversation About Conversations About Race

07:33 | Feb 25th, 2015

Authors Baratunde Thurston, Raquel Cepeda and Tanner Colby host a lively multiracial, interracial conversation about the ways we can’t talk, don’t talk, would rather not talk, but intermittently, fitfully, embarrassingly do talk about culture, identi...Show More