Freak Out and Carry On


Freak Out and Carry On, WBUR's politics and history podcast, addresses the urgent issues of our time through the lens of history. Hosted by Pulitzer Prize-winning author and journalist Ron Suskind and noted Boston College historian Heather Cox Richar...Show More
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The Final Episode

28:47 | Feb 15th, 2018

Ron and Heather wrap up Freak Out and Carry On, reviewing the year that was. Thanks to all our listeners!
The Rule Of Law

32:41 | Feb 8th, 2018

Benjamin Wittes, from Lawfare, and Jonathan Rauch, from The Atlantic discuss their article "Boycott the Republican Party", the repercussions of the Nunes memo, and their faith in the Mueller investigation.
'A Doozy' Of A State Of A Union

26:13 | Feb 1st, 2018

How does Trump's speech compare to those of Nixon, Reagan, Clinton and Bush? When did presidents begin inviting guests whose story they include in their speech?
A New Progressive Era

25:23 | Jan 25th, 2018

The passion of the woman's march, the origins of the new populism on the left, Teddy Roosevelt's political transformation in 1884.
Who Should Be Let Into America?

26:38 | Jan 19th, 2018

This week on Freak Out And Carry On, Ron Suskind and Heather Cox Richardson talk with Tom Gjelten, of NPR. They discuss President Trump's ideas about immigration, and how they fit into the long debate over which people are allowed to come to [...]
The Reality Show In The White House

30:58 | Jan 11th, 2018

Ron Suskind and Heather Cox Richardson talk with Julian Zelizer, Professor of history and public affairs at Princeton University. They discuss the debate around President Trump's mental fitness, the history of the 25th amendment, and whether or not [...Show More
President Trump, Steve Bannon And The Legacy Of 1968

34:33 | Jan 4th, 2018

A look at the public feud between Steve Bannon and President Trump, the political forecast for the new year and possible parallels between 2018 and 1968.
Trump's First Year, In Review

29:36 | Dec 21st, 2017

Amy Siskind details the most important norms broken by President Trump in 2017, from attacking the media to befriending dictators.
Doug Jones And The "Crackup Of The Trump Voter Coalition"

26:29 | Dec 14th, 2017

Carol Anderson, author of "White Rage", and Jack Hitt, host of the podcast "Uncivil", join the show to discuss the upset in the Alabama senate race.
Will The Republican Tax Plan Contribute To Inequality?

26:28 | Dec 7th, 2017

The tax bill is "going to give a lot of money to people who already have a lot of money" says Jim Tankersley.
The Latest On The Russia Investigation, Consumer Financial Protection Bureau

27:46 | Nov 30th, 2017

Brian Klaas join the show to discuss the possible cooperation of Michael Flynn. They also look at the ongoing leadership crisis at the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau and compare it to the leadership crisis at the Department of War under [...]
From Nixon To Turkeys, A Look At Pardons

23:24 | Nov 21st, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Andrew Rudalevige, Professor of Government at Bowdoin College. They discuss presidential pardons throughout history and examine whether President Trump could pardon himself.
All The President's Judges

30:24 | Nov 16th, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Alicia Bannon, senior counsel at the Democracy Program at the Brennan Center for Justice about President Trump's controversial judicial nominees, the history of the Federalist Society and suggest reforms to the American [......Show More
Politics And Trump In The Age Of #MeToo

26:42 | Nov 9th, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Ellen Fitzpatrick, history professor at the University of New Hampshire about recent sexual harassment allegations against men in the media, Hollywood and politics.
Mueller Strikes

32:07 | Nov 2nd, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Michael Isikoff, chief investigative correspondent for Yahoo News. They discuss the indictments of Paul Manafort, the guilty plea of George Papadopoulos, and comparisons to Richard Nixon and James Buchanan.
Is Our Electoral Process Broken?

41:35 | Oct 26th, 2017

Recorded in front of a live audience, Ron and Heather talk with Harvard Law Professor Lawrence Lessig. They discuss reforming the electoral college, the gerrymandering case in front of the Supreme Court, and how to get money out of politics.
From Thomas Jefferson To Mike Pence — The Power Of The Vice President

28:37 | Oct 19th, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Barbara Perry, director of Presidential Studies at the University of Virginia's Miller Center. They discuss the new profile of Vice President Mike Pence in The New Yorker and look at the power -- or lack thereof -- of vice [...Show More
What Happens After Trump?

30:06 | Oct 12th, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Norm Ornstein, on his new book "One Nation After Trump" They discuss what lasting effects the Trump presidency will have on the government, Senator Bob Corker's criticism of the president, and the similarities between [...]
Trump Faces Dual Tragedies In Las Vegas And Puerto Rico

35:40 | Oct 6th, 2017

This week, Ron and Heather respond to the mass shooting in Las Vegas and the ongoing crisis in Puerto Rico after Hurricane Maria. They're joined by historian Douglas Brinkley. They discuss the 1900 Galveston hurricane, President Bush's response to [....Show More
Free Speech And The Politics Of Football

27:26 | Sep 28th, 2017

Ron and Heather are joined by Slate staff writer Isaac Chotiner. They respond to President Donald Trump's attacks on football players who kneel during the national anthem. Plus, they look at the debate around free speech, on football fields and [...]
Trump's 'Choose Your Own Adventure' United Nations Speech

33:23 | Sep 21st, 2017

This week, Ron and Heather analyze President Trump's first speech at the United Nations. With Susan Glasser from Politico. They look at the long history of internationalism versus isolationism in the United States, from the League of Nations to the [...Show More
Hillary Clinton And The Misogyny Question

29:43 | Sep 14th, 2017

Ron and Heather discuss Hillary Clinton's new memoir, the impact of non-college educated white women voters, and the legacy of the first female U.S. cabinet member, Frances Perkins.
The Trump Approach To North Korea's Nuclear Threat

31:22 | Sep 7th, 2017

Ron and Heather discuss North Korea's nuclear tests with Sheila Smith, a senior fellow at the Council on Foreign Relations.
The History Of Nepotism In The White House

29:49 | Aug 31st, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Annie Karni, POLITICO's White House Reporter, and Matthew Dallek, Professor at George Washington University, about the roles of Jared Kushner, Ivanka Trump and the history of nepotism and the presidency.
President Trump And The White Working Class

32:50 | Aug 24th, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Carol Anderson and examine the greater implications of President Trump's rhetoric and policies around race.
Charlottesville, President Trump And Confederate History

40:43 | Aug 18th, 2017

Ron and Heather respond to the violence in Charlottesville during a white nationalists rally and President Trump's statements. They speak with Randall Kennedy, law professor at Harvard University, and Tony Horwitz, author of "Confederates in the [......Show More
The Democrats Search For A Message

30:02 | Aug 10th, 2017

Ron and Heather examine the Democratic Party in disarray: out of power in the White House and Congress and looking for a message to attract voters. They speak with Jonathan Chait, political writer for New York Magazine, about the Democrats' new [...]
Are We Seeing A Break Between The Republican Party And President Trump?

30:26 | Aug 4th, 2017

Ron and Heather speak with Sen. Jeff Flake (R-Ariz.) about his new book "Conscience of a Conservative: A Rejection of Destructive Politics and a Return to Principle," the legacy of Barry Goldwater and why he thinks Vice President Mike Pence would [.....Show More
From Anthony Scaramucci To Orville Babcock: Why Presidential Advisers Matter

28:29 | Jul 27th, 2017

Ron and Heather speak with Olivier Knox, Chief Washington Correspondent for Yahoo! News. They look at presidential advisers, past and present, and how they have influenced politics and policy.
President Trump And His 'Radically Different' Foreign Policy

27:05 | Jul 20th, 2017

Ron and Heather speak with Susan Glasser, Politico's chief international affairs columnist. They look at President Trump on the world's stage, from his flip flop on the Iran nuclear deal to the absence of a Trump doctrine.
Donald Trump Jr.'s Emails And The Collusion Question

22:09 | Jul 13th, 2017

Guest: Adam Liptak, legal correspondent for the New York Times. Ron and Heather respond to Donald Trump Jr.'s emails disclosures and push back on the suggestion that this might be treason. They also discuss the origins of the Logan Act in 1798.
President Trump's Tweets And 'The Bully Pulpit On Steroids'

27:01 | Jul 7th, 2017

Ron and Heather talk with Harvard's Nicco Mele and respond to President Trump's CNN and Mika Brzezinski tweets, discuss the media's role in the first 100 days of this administration and look at historical parallels, from the John Peter Zenger trial [...Show More
President Trump's Travel Ban And The History Of Anti-Immigrant Movements In The U.S.

20:06 | Jun 30th, 2017

Ron and Heather speak with Morris Vogel about Trump's partially-reinstated travel ban and the history of xenophobia in America, from Japanese internment to laws against German-Americans during WWI.
Behind Closed Doors, A Health Bill Is Born

23:39 | Jun 23rd, 2017

Ron and Heather speak with Yahoo News’ Matt Bai about the Senate Republicans’ health care bill. They discuss the secrecy with which it was drafted, the history of the G.O.P.'s relationship to health care, and the bill's implications for [...]
Is The Attorney General The President's Lawyer Or America's Lawyer?

17:23 | Jun 16th, 2017

Ron and Heather talk to Dana Milbank, from the Washington Post, about Jeff Sessions' contentious Senate hearing and the historical tension that attorneys general, from Mitchell Palmer to Alberto Gonzalez, have faced. Do they serve the president or [....Show More
Announcing Freak Out And Carry On, A New Politics And History Podcast

03:43 | Jun 13th, 2017

Freak Out and Carry On from WBUR is a new politics and history podcast that addresses the urgent issues of our time through a historical lens. New episodes will be available every Thursday starting June 15.
Podcast Preview: President Trump's First 100 Days

18:44 | Jun 9th, 2017

We want your feedback on a new political podcast in the works. Take a listen.
Podcast Preview: 'Loose Lips Sink Ships'

17:35 | Jun 9th, 2017

In our new politics and history podcast, Ron Suskind and Heather Cox Richardson discuss the news of today and its historical parallels. This week: the Comey memo, President Trump's meeting with the Russians, and what we can learn from Benedict [...]
Podcast Preview: Was The Comey Firing Nixonian?

16:05 | Jun 9th, 2017

A new podcast compares and contrasts President Trump's firing of FBI director James Comey and President Nixon's infamous "Saturday Night Massacre."