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A podcast by Basecamp about a better way to work and run your business. We bring you stories and unconventional wisdom from Basecamp’s co-founders and other business owners.

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01 - Sell Your By-products

31:07 | Aug 15th, 2017

Welcome to the first episode of Rework! This podcast is based on Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson's 2010 best-selling business book, which was itself based on years of blogging. So what better way to kick off this show than talking about bypr...Show More

Rework Teaser

01:30 | Jul 26th, 2017

Rework is a podcast by the makers of Basecamp about a better way to work and run your business. While the prevailing narrative around successful entrepreneurship tells you to scale fast and raise money, we think there's a better way. We'll take you b...Show More

Job Scam

13:04 | Apr 18th

We're introducing a new segment called Check-Ins, where we talk to folks at Basecamp about their answers to recurring questions that get asked of everyone here. Recently, Jeremy Daer on our Security, Infrastructure, and Performance team dealt with an...Show More

Subscription Hostages

20:32 | Apr 9th

Raise your hand if this sounds familiar: You sign up for a service or a product online. When you go to cancel, you discover the only way to stop the subscription is to write an email or—even worse, make an actual phone call. In this episode, we try t...Show More

Did You Order the Code Red?

17:51 | Mar 26th

"Passwords just aren't cutting it online. It's getting worse. We all feel it." This is what Jeremy from Basecamp's Security, Infrastructure, and Performance team wrote in a February blog post after dealing with a mass-login attack. Intruders with hug...Show More

BONUS - Ruby on Rails

21:53 | Mar 19th

David Heinemeier Hansson talks about creativity, finding a passion, and how writing Ruby changed the way he thinks about programming.

Hiring Is Not Hazing

23:53 | Mar 12th

Why are manhole covers round? How many golf balls can fit in a 747? Why are job interviews so terrible? In this episode, Aja Hammerly, a developer advocate at Google, talks about the drawbacks of common tech interview techniques like whiteboard codin...Show More

36 - Remote Work: Extreme Edition

29:19 | Feb 26th

We place a long-distance phone call to Antarctica to chat with Kathrin Mallot, an astrophysicist who works at the IceCube Neutrino Observatory in the South Pole. In this episode, Kathrin talks about preparing for a work assignment in a super remote p...Show More

35 - No Hard Feelings

36:46 | Feb 12th

Liz Fosslien and Mollie West Duffy are the co-authors of No Hard Feelings: The Secret Power of Embracing Emotions At Work. They come on Rework to talk about how the future of work is emotional; why it's useful to listen to feelings like envy; and how...Show More

34 - Reblog

22:40 | Jan 29th

The folks at Basecamp have been blogging since 1999, when Jason Fried would write by the light of a fire fueled by David Heinemeier Hansson's savage indictments of the tech industry. A lot has changed since then (with the exception of DHH's feelings ...Show More

BONUS - Spark Joy with DHH

16:51 | Jan 22nd

Basecamp co-founders David Heinemeier Hansson and Jason Fried are fans of Marie Kondo's 2014 bestseller "The Life-Changing Magic of Tidying Up," which is back in the cultural zeitgeist thanks to her new Netflix show. In this bonus episode, DHH talks ...Show More

33 - Big Integer

27:39 | Jan 15th

Go behind the scenes of Basecamp 3's biggest outage.

BONUS - Happy New Year

22:43 | Jan 1st

We tried to record an episode, but there were more important things to talk about. See you in 2019 with more episodes of REWORK.

BONUS - 100% Facebook-Free

24:57 | Dec 21st, 2018

After yet another round of revelations about Facebook's use of customer data, Basecamp has decided to become 100% Facebook-free. We've actually been off Facebook proper for a while, but on Wednesday we decided to remove the company from Instagram and...Show More

BONUS - Rename

07:49 | Dec 19th, 2018

On the last episode of Rework, we talked about the dangers of using violent language in a business context. We've had to grapple with other kinds of problematic language at Basecamp as well. In this mini bonus episode, Shaun talks to programmer Jerem...Show More

32 - Happy Pacifists

24:25 | Dec 18th, 2018

Business rhetoric is rife with the language of war—there's constant talk of conquering markets and dominating the competition. These tropes indicate a dangerous way of thinking that can have real consequences, intended or not, on human behavior. In t...Show More

31 - Sometimes It's Crazy At Work

27:02 | Dec 4th, 2018

In October, Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson released their new book, It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at Work. The book featured their writing, as well as cover art and interior illustrations from a couple designers at Basecamp. The launch initia...Show More

30 - The Worst Performance Review

27:28 | Nov 20th, 2018

Annual, semi-annual, quarterly, 360...no matter what form they take, performance reviews can be anxiety-inducing workplace rituals. In today's episode, we talk to the head of HR at an HR software company (meta!) and a Basecamp designer about why help...Show More

29 - Rework Mailbag 3

29:43 | Nov 6th, 2018

It’s time for another episode where Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer your questions! In this one, they discuss how to apply calm company principles to client work and classrooms, and talk about healthy ways for business partners to dis...Show More

28 - The Myth of the Overnight Sensation

22:52 | Oct 23rd, 2018

Before the viral unicorn poop video, before the appearances on Shark Tank and Dr. Oz and Howard Stern—Bobby Edwards was showing his invention at conventions and sending it to alternative health bloggers in hopes of getting coverage. The invention? Sq...Show More

27.5 - It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at Work - Part 2

14:21 | Oct 16th, 2018

This is the second of a two-part interview with David Heinemeier Hansson about his and Jason Fried's new book, It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at Work. In this episode, David talks about taking a calm approach to writing and marketing the book. Also, Wai...Show More

27 - It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at Work - Part 1

23:22 | Oct 9th, 2018

Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson have a new book out called It Doesn't Have to be Crazy at Work, which pushes back against the toxic culture of overwork and unhealthy ambitions that’s driving much of the modern workplace. In this episode, Wai...Show More

26 - Farewell, Noah

29:20 | Sep 25th, 2018

A lot of businesses start as side ventures or hobbies that grow into full-time pursuits. The trick is often in knowing when to quit a comfortable day job to start a new business. We sit down with one of our own at this crossroads. Noah Lorang headed ...Show More

25 - The Bean Machine

20:30 | Sep 11th, 2018

*taps mic* Is this thing on? We're back from sabbatical! In our first post-hiatus episode, Shaun heads to Denver to visit his sister, who left a catering job at a big restaurant chain to run a coffee shop out of a Volkswagen Bus that she bought on im...Show More

BONUS - The Distance - The Business Cycle

39:29 | Aug 21st, 2018

Shaun and Wailin are still on vacation, but we have another of our favorite episodes from our previous podcast, The Distance, which was about long-running businesses. Wailin's pick is this story of America's last bicycle manufacturer.

BONUS - The Distance - Diamonds Are Forever

17:18 | Aug 7th, 2018

Shaun and Wailin are on vacation! During our hiatus, we're bringing you our favorite stories from our previous podcast, The Distance, which was about long-running businesses. Shaun's pick is this story of a 90-year-old jewelry store and how running a...Show More

24 - Take a Break

39:22 | Jul 24th, 2018

Smell ya later! Shaun and Wailin are taking off the month of August. Before they left, they interviewed three business owners about sabbaticals. In this episode: Adeline Koh of Sabbatical Beauty shares the story of how she ended up starting a busines...Show More

BONUS - Out in the Open

08:16 | Jul 17th, 2018

In a bonus conversation with Sarah Park of MeetEdgar, she talks about making the company handbook public and why they have a policy of opening up meetings and conversations to everyone.

23 - Temperature Check

31:00 | Jul 10th, 2018

One of our colleagues on the Basecamp customer support team, Jayne Ogilvie, wanted to find out how other tech companies with remote staffs handle issues like communication, career development, and hiring. Jayne sent out a survey and got back a wealth...Show More

22 - Go Behind the Scenes

32:12 | Jun 26th, 2018

A famous guy once said, "Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!" But he was a grifter. In fact, going behind the scenes—whether it's a factory tour or cooking show—can be a valuable experience for both visitors and guides. In this episode, ...Show More

21 - You Need Less Than You Think

34:38 | Jun 12th, 2018

Who needs a fancy office when you can work out of a dingy food court? Who needs fancy equipment when you can buy what you need at Walmart? Who needs to hire an SEO specialist? What does an SEO specialist do, anyway? (A question for another episode, o...Show More

20 - But Wait, There's More!

23:45 | May 29th, 2018

Do you struggle with finding the right podcast? Are you tired of true crime shows and hosts trying to sell you a mattress? Introducing Rework, a podcast that's free of both murder and midroll ads. When you listen to this episode of Rework, you'll lea...Show More

19 - Rework Mailbag 2

18:57 | May 15th, 2018

Basecamp co-founders Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer listener questions about workplace communication and remote working. Alison Green of Ask A Manager, whom we featured in our previous episode, gives her advice on a couple of questio...Show More

18 - Ask A Manager

27:20 | May 1st, 2018

Wailin interviews Alison Green, the advice columnist whose Ask A Manager column offers friendly and practical guidance for all kinds of workplace dilemmas, from "How do I ask for a raise?" to "How can I get out of eating lunch with coworkers?" Alison...Show More

BONUS - Culturati Summit 2018

58:00 | Apr 17th, 2018

In January, Wailin Wong interviewed Dean Carter, vice president of human resources and shared services at Patagonia, and David Simas, CEO of the Obama Foundation, at the Culturati Summit in Austin, Texas. They discussed the nature of citizenship, cor...Show More

BONUS - When Chris Met Mark

03:53 | Apr 10th, 2018

Chris Ruder, the CEO of Spikeball, shares a story about meeting Shark Tank investor Mark Cuban at a bar and committing a photo faux pas (a faux-to pas?), a year before he taped his Shark Tank appearance.

17 - Life After Shark Tank

21:34 | Apr 3rd, 2018

The ABC show Shark Tank is irresistible reality programming: Entrepreneurs pitch their businesses to a panel of famous investors and have the potential to make a life-changing deal. But as with any reality show, there's much more to the Shark Tank ex...Show More

16 - How to Say You're Sorry

32:19 | Mar 20th, 2018

"You know I try, but I don't do too well with apologies," Justin Bieber once sang. You're not the only one with this problem, Justin! Why is saying sorry so difficult, especially for businesses? In this episode: A veteran tracker of apologies looks a...Show More

15.5 - Update: Please Don't Like This

14:08 | Mar 13th, 2018

Jason Fried talks about designing an alternative to Basecamp's Applause feature that is subtle yet expressive, and distinct from the kinds of reactions and feedback mechanisms used on social media platforms. (If you missed our previous episode on the...Show More

15 - Please Don't Like This

25:28 | Mar 6th, 2018

At Basecamp, we're in the midst of a debate over an Applause feature that was designed to improve communication but might be stoking unwanted anxiety. In this episode, CTO David Heinemeier Hansson and iOS designer Tara Mann present different sides of...Show More

BONUS - Dan Miller on Outsourcing

04:25 | Feb 21st, 2018

Dan Miller of Mulberrys Garment Care talks outsourcing, bootstrapping, and growing slowly in some leftover bits we couldn't quite fit into episode 14.

14 - Meetings Are Toxic

23:41 | Feb 20th, 2018

You'll laugh; you'll cry; you'll gnash your teeth in recognition as you hear the stories of horrible meetings we collected for this episode. Meetings are one of the worst kinds of workplace interruptions. They're held too frequently, run too long, an...Show More

13 - Interruption is Not Collaboration

28:11 | Feb 6th, 2018

Hey, are you busy? Can you listen to this real quick? It's an episode about interruptions in the workplace. You'll hear from academic researchers, Basecamp's head data wrangler, and the CEO of a remote company about how they've tackled not just the d...Show More

BONUS - Jason Fried On To-Do Notifications

23:35 | Jan 26th, 2018

Special bonus episode where Jason Fried discusses some of the thinking that goes into making a very small change to the to-do feature in Basecamp.

12 - Don't Be Fake

37:45 | Jan 23rd, 2018

Hey, are you crushing it? It seems like everyone is constantly crushing it in the business world. But maybe it would be better if we were honest about our flaws, talked like ourselves, and aimed to be genuine instead of super polished. In this episod...Show More

BONUS - The Million Dollar Mistake

07:56 | Jan 16th, 2018

A conversation with Fred Perrotta, co-founder and CEO of Tortuga Backpacks, about something he calls his "million dollar mistake." For more details, read his blog post about it: https://www.fredperrotta.com/i-fucked-up/

11 - Start Making Something

35:58 | Jan 9th, 2018

New year, new you! If you started 2018 with an idea for a product, business, or creative pursuit, now is the time to start making something. In this episode: A tabletop game designer finds that sometimes, all you need to get going is a pack of index ...Show More

10.5 - Rework Mailbag 1 - Part 2

28:46 | Dec 26th, 2017

This is the second in a two-part series in which Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer listener questions. If you'd like your questions answered on a future mailbag episode leave a message at 708.628.7850.

10 - Rework Mailbag 1 - Part 1

35:18 | Dec 19th, 2017

This is the first of two episodes where Jason Fried and David Heinemeier Hansson answer questions from our listeners. In this episode, they talk about the role of luck and timing in starting Basecamp; ass pricing (yes, you read that correctly); hirin...Show More

09 - Planning is Guessing

27:47 | Dec 5th, 2017

Basecamp's founders never wrote a business plan when they started the company. Even today, they don't like to look too far ahead. Too much long-term planning can hamper your ability to react to the present. Did you have plans to listen to this episod...Show More

08 - Can You Sell Water? Part 2

22:16 | Nov 21st, 2017

Some of the tech industry's most vaunted companies revel in their origins as mavericks or rule-breakers, having flouted regulations in the name of disruption. That kind of risk-taking is celebrated in Silicon Valley but punished in other places, most...Show More

BONUS - The Price of Basecamp's Water

05:40 | Nov 8th, 2017

Some leftover bits that didn't make it into the last episode.

07 - Can You Sell Water? Part 1

27:31 | Nov 7th, 2017

Selling is a core skill. You have to know how to sell, whether it's a product, an idea, or yourself. In 2012, Basecamp CEO Jason Fried saw the results of a bottled water-selling challenge at Techstars Chicago, a bootcamp program for startups. That on...Show More

BONUS - Jason Fried at INDUSTRY 2017

44:35 | Oct 31st, 2017

Basecamp CEO Jason Fried talks about ideas with Paul McAvinchey, co-founder of Product Collective, at INDUSTRY: The Product Conference in September 2017.

06 - The Moral ABC

16:37 | Oct 24th, 2017

Dr. Bronner's Magic Soaps, which bills itself as the top-selling natural soapmaker in North America, wasn't founded to sell soap. The company was started to promote a religious philosophy developed by Emanuel Bronner, a third-generation German Jewish...Show More

05 - Take A Stand

32:08 | Oct 10th, 2017

Business and politics tend to make uneasy bedfellows, but in these divisive times, even businesses that have historically stayed out of hot-button issues are coming off the sidelines. In this episode: An online florist tells racists to shop elsewhere...Show More

04 - Say No

25:27 | Sep 26th, 2017

It's easy to say yes, whether it's to a customer request or a deadline from your boss. But saying yes too many times can result in an unmanageable workload or distract you from the stuff you really want to be doing. It's good to practice saying no an...Show More

03 - Pick A Fight (on Twitter)

28:55 | Sep 12th, 2017

Basecamp CTO David Heinemeier Hansson is known for many things, including creating Ruby on Rails and writing business books. He also has a knack for arguing with people on the Internet. This cheerfully profane conversation explores how Twitter is lik...Show More

02 - Workaholics Aren't Heroes

32:52 | Aug 29th, 2017

Being tired isn't a badge of honor. There, we said it. We've been saying this for a while now, because our culture loves to glorify toiling long hours for its own sake and we think that leads to subpar work and general misery. In this episode, we tal...Show More